Indigenous peoples figured this shit out before centralized governments and computers, I’m sure we can think of something.

… we bomb kids more, setup internment camps and try to kill trans kids.

See, democrats will try to stand behind marginalized communities as though we can math our way into ignoring US imperialism and murder. The math doesn’t work that way: either we give a shit about people’s right to live or we don’t. You don’t get to claim you care about trans kids while voting for a government that supports Israeli Hitler. This is what’s called having a semblance of moral principles. It’s not virtue signaling to demand our government stop BOMBING WOMEN AND CHILDREN, what the fuck is wrong with you people. Maybe if you went further left instead of being so ready to “compromise” we could, I don’t know, pressure our politicians into doing something.

The difference is that you will get one of the politicians, and in the US it’s one of two…What a lot of people see is people being given that choice and saying “they’re both the same to me”

This is the coveted Lesser of Two Evils^tm argument. You people parrot this line as though it were a truism. Here’s an analogy: If I offer you a glass of lemonade with 50% urine and another glass with 10% urine, are you happy to drink the latter because of the difference? (On second thought, don’t answer that.) Arguing for the “lesser evil” only pacifies our anger in an attempt to redirect the people to continue supporting corporate Democrats no matter how bad our material conditions deteriorate. People who believe this argument preserve the status quo.

America has been in decline since Ronald fucking Reagan. Presidential powers have been growing for decades. Congress has been corrupt for decades. We have broken (and supported breaking) international laws for decades. We leverage our control of the global economy, and the global reserve currency, in favor of US billionaires. The rich have gotten obscenely wealthy while the average American is one missed paycheck away from financial ruin. The suggestion that we should continue voting for the lesser evil given this trajectory fits the definition of insanity.

The Democratic party is either powerless to stop these trends or they are complicit. At what point are we going to demand more?

You get this from facebook?

Honest question: what responsibility, if any, do you place on the Democratic establishment in all this? First we held our noses and voted for Joe Biden, who was clearly old as fuck, then we didn’t get a primary because Biden dropped out of the race at the last possible minute.

Seems like every time the GOP puts up some God-awful Republican, leftists and progressives are expected to get in line and vote for establishment milquetoast candidates. Meanwhile, Democratic politicians are shifting to the right, with their pro-billionaire pro-Israeli “bipartisan” politics.

We draw a line at literal genocide. (Hence my earlier comment about Hitler.) Instead of blaming the politicians for failing to represent their voter-base, you blame the voters for failing to support their politicians. Fuck outta here.

Dr. King was a preacher in a mid-20th century southern black context. He likely didn’t believe in gay marriage. Hell, Obama only supported “civil unions” in 2004. Most prominent figures on the left were silent on gay rights until relatively recently.

That’s an odd way to spell “I have no morals to stand on”.

edit: The person above also clearly doesn’t understand the purpose of the Trolly Problem. It’s a thought-experiment to show whether you agree with consequentialist or deontologist ethics. Even thought the former is in vouge, the Trolly problem isn’t itself an argument against deontology.

Modern day liberals would have shrugged their shoulders at Hitler. Not even hyperbole. We have become so individualistic as a country that we don’t give a damn about our tax dollars killing civilians overseas.

Seriously, they barely have to manufacture consent anymore. Just argue that [insert country] BAD and America is GOOD. Don’t think about the diplomatic, economic, military, and covert actions the US did to [insert country] in the past.

This mission is underwhelming. Outdated technology kept in place for political reasons (i.e., Congress demanding jobs for their constituents during the Obama presidency), while better programs are being cancelled. And the astronauts are just going around the moon.

While we spend a fraction of a percent on NASA, perpetually “10 years away” from a Mars mission, the PRC just finished the Tiangong space station. The Chinese are building infrastructure for the long-term while the US refuses to adequately fund space exploration. Americans should actually be embarrassed by how far we’re falling behind.

Excellent video essay if you’re interested: Artemis II: This Isn’t the Apollo Future We Were Promised

Look on the bright side - maybe people will realize we can’t vote our way out of this.

No, people are just anti Christianity circle jerking because it’s a religious holiday