Portraying rape victims enjoying their rape part-way through as a justification for men to fantasize about rape is really problematic. There are bodily responses that can happen during rape, like orgasming, but that doesn’t mean a rape victim wants the rape or enjoys it. This is an entirely separate category of porn than say CNC (consensual non-consent) scenes where the “victim” is in complete control.
Consensual non consent is literally portraying rape as something the victim enjoys and absolutely justifies rape fantasies from both sexes. Yeah I’m fetish shaming and I 'm not sorry. There was a guy who enjoyed hammering nails into his dick and his pleasure didn’t make it mentally healthy. Women who are into rape fantasy encourage rape. Now ban me.
Again, difference is that the “victim” in the scene is in control. There’s quite a few people that have had their past traumas come through as kinks in this way, but it’s not anything like porn that portrays rape as a positive for the victim and what they want. I’m not even sure if I’m explaining the differences very well here tbh, but there are differences between the two.
I respect that you have a difference of opinion on this though. Why would I ban you? *Oh, you’re a man…
Edit: The fantasy of being raped and of being a rapist are distinct in my opinion.
Edit 2: The consensual part in CNC is the most important part.
Oh boy this is gonna be a hornets nest. Kids these days are oblivious to the kink tomato and don’t particularly care - fandom has a lot of purity politicking nowadays.
I’m really uncomfortable with how many upvotes that comment has already and it’s growing. That this topic was brought up on this post is interesting. The main post is specifically talking about men making rape jokes and this person coming in with “porn depicts rape victims as enjoying it!” is a crazy direction to take this topic.
It’s definitely a shoehorn. I dislike that sort of jacking, it takes a meaningful thread discussing something and pushes it off into a completely different direction. And yes, when that happens you need to wonder at the motivation.
I keep re-reading this comment in disgust.
Portraying rape victims enjoying their rape part-way through as a justification for men to fantasize about rape is really problematic. There are bodily responses that can happen during rape, like orgasming, but that doesn’t mean a rape victim wants the rape or enjoys it. This is an entirely separate category of porn than say CNC (consensual non-consent) scenes where the “victim” is in complete control.
Consensual non consent is literally portraying rape as something the victim enjoys and absolutely justifies rape fantasies from both sexes. Yeah I’m fetish shaming and I 'm not sorry. There was a guy who enjoyed hammering nails into his dick and his pleasure didn’t make it mentally healthy. Women who are into rape fantasy encourage rape. Now ban me.
Again, difference is that the “victim” in the scene is in control. There’s quite a few people that have had their past traumas come through as kinks in this way, but it’s not anything like porn that portrays rape as a positive for the victim and what they want. I’m not even sure if I’m explaining the differences very well here tbh, but there are differences between the two.
I respect that you have a difference of opinion on this though. Why would I ban you? *Oh, you’re a man…
Edit: The fantasy of being raped and of being a rapist are distinct in my opinion.
Edit 2: The consensual part in CNC is the most important part.
Oh boy this is gonna be a hornets nest. Kids these days are oblivious to the kink tomato and don’t particularly care - fandom has a lot of purity politicking nowadays.
I’m really uncomfortable with how many upvotes that comment has already and it’s growing. That this topic was brought up on this post is interesting. The main post is specifically talking about men making rape jokes and this person coming in with “porn depicts rape victims as enjoying it!” is a crazy direction to take this topic.
It’s definitely a shoehorn. I dislike that sort of jacking, it takes a meaningful thread discussing something and pushes it off into a completely different direction. And yes, when that happens you need to wonder at the motivation.