If you needed to do an automated check of a persons identity doesnt it make sense to do an id check + biometric check? Thats what happens at the traditional airport gates except its a person looking at your passport and looking at your face.
Have you ever traveled internationally? They know who you are. You are not anonymously entering another country through an international airport. Whether its going through an automated check in process or going through a manual one they know who you are and they have a record of what you look like, fingerprint, name, passport number credit card and probably other stuff im forgetting.
What are you actually preserving by avoiding having your face scanned? This is such a weird privacy take.
It’s fine that a border guard checks my passport and lets me to go my way. who cares. It’s reasonable, and I believe that it’s for our safety. but automated checks do more: they log the exact times you crossed the border, store it for decades. all the unnecessary data will most likely leak or be used for nefarious purposes at some point.
its like forced digital passes on public transport. when the driver checks your passes, no private info about my traveling/commuting habits is collected. but when passes need to be scanned, it is: gov id, time, location, stop number, line number. the public transport company really has no business in knowing when do I go to work, when do I head home, or when do I start using a different stop regularly, as it reveals so many other things about you, like whether you do anything in the city after work and how frequent is that.
I travel over the border much less, but my point stands.
What are you actually preserving by avoiding having your face scanned?
in addition to the above, by having fewer face scans uploaded to the system, I expect the surveillance cameras on the streets to do a worse job on facial recognition even when I’m just going about my day in my home country.
they don’t reasonably need biometric data to keep a record. they do need it, that’s not what I dispute, but not reasonably.
If you needed to do an automated check of a persons identity doesnt it make sense to do an id check + biometric check? Thats what happens at the traditional airport gates except its a person looking at your passport and looking at your face.
exactly, it does not need to be automated, and then less info is required.
Automation in these areas often increases the amount of collected information by a lot.
Have you ever traveled internationally? They know who you are. You are not anonymously entering another country through an international airport. Whether its going through an automated check in process or going through a manual one they know who you are and they have a record of what you look like, fingerprint, name, passport number credit card and probably other stuff im forgetting.
What are you actually preserving by avoiding having your face scanned? This is such a weird privacy take.
you are missing the point.
It’s fine that a border guard checks my passport and lets me to go my way. who cares. It’s reasonable, and I believe that it’s for our safety. but automated checks do more: they log the exact times you crossed the border, store it for decades. all the unnecessary data will most likely leak or be used for nefarious purposes at some point.
its like forced digital passes on public transport. when the driver checks your passes, no private info about my traveling/commuting habits is collected. but when passes need to be scanned, it is: gov id, time, location, stop number, line number. the public transport company really has no business in knowing when do I go to work, when do I head home, or when do I start using a different stop regularly, as it reveals so many other things about you, like whether you do anything in the city after work and how frequent is that.
I travel over the border much less, but my point stands.
in addition to the above, by having fewer face scans uploaded to the system, I expect the surveillance cameras on the streets to do a worse job on facial recognition even when I’m just going about my day in my home country.