The EU is setting up a high-level group of political and military leaders from member states, Ukraine and the UK to speed up efforts to close Europe’s defence capability gaps amid rising Russian threats.

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      There are still hundred bombs raining down on Gaza every day? Do you not understand the word “relatively”? Why would EU get involved in middle east when they have their own war?

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        “Just because you’re not interested in politics doesn’t mean politics isn’t interested in you”. Israel, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Western Sahara, etc… these are all countries in Europe’s immediate vicinity and what happens in these countries affects the EU whether we want it to or not. If I’m rich, I’d rather live in a nice neighborhood with neighbors who are doing as well as I am, than in a dangerous neighborhood where all the neighbors see me as a stuck-up rich boy whose car has too many hubcaps.

        The STILL ongoing civil war in Libya, for instance, causes a constant stream of migration across the Mediterranean, with a lot of human trafficking, because Libya hasn’t got time to worry about that when Libyans are killing other Libyans.

        Morocco intentionally sent refugees into Ceuta for politically motivated reasons.

        An unstable Arabian Peninsula is not good for Europe. An unstable North Africa is not good for Europe. Perhaps the USA can cause shitstorms in the Middle East and then blithely walk away back to the other hemisphere, but that shit is on our doorstep.

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        Why would EU get involved in Middle East.

        We are involved - up to the hilt. I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but are you really making comments like this in good faith?

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          Yes. Why would EU shift focus from themselves to middle east and make themselves the next US (self proclaimed world police) that everyone hates for getting themselves involved in middle east? Answer me.

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              Ehh.

              It really isn’t that hard to understand the basic geopolitic neutrality concept of “support Israel’s existence and security, support Palestinian statehood and civilian rights, oppose Hamas, and oppose Israeli policies that violate international law”. EU is not a militaristic union, and each country can diplomatically mostly do what they want. Hell, even some states are borderline hostile towards one another. It’s not called “United States of Europe”. There has been fair amount of pushback, from nasty public denouncations, to ending trade deals (including military), etc, but it’s all done by individual countries. Israel has never threatened EU, so EU upper body has no legal right to impose total trade embargo to Israel. Spain even banned fuel shipments which provide other EU countries. Stop thinking of EU like US. Yes, since EU union contains many countries, some would naturally, statistically, lean towards supporting Israel, but if you’re going to then claim entire EU is like that, is basically how racism gets born. We are constantly getting threatened by a much larger and scarier country, with multiple drone incidents already, and now this weird ass mysterious CIA visit (which happened before Russia invaded Ukraine) being like a bad omen, I cannot express how much I would not want to go around pissing off US right now, which could be our strongest ally, just to meddle in middle fucking east. Get a grip.