I have been using Matrix since I’ve been on Lemmy. It’s an open source encrypted chat application, and obviously Lemmy DMs are not encrypted so it’s kinda necessary for private communication. I have a few questions though.

Is there a community about Matrix on Lemmy?

Is Matrix technically part of the fediverse? I noticed it does not appear on fedidb.com. On a related note, what is the active userbase size?

Who is the developer/team and do they have an active presence on the fediverse?

Thank you for anyone who can answer my questions and also to the Matrix devs, I greatly appreciate you. But I am just curious about some of the details about Matrix which I already know about for Lemmy, Piefed, Mbin, etc. Matrix is an essential component of the fediverse ecosystem, so I think it would be prudent to have a greater understanding of it and potentially seek more cross-pollination and/or collaboration between the threadiverse and Matrix.

  • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    7 days ago

    Yes Matrix is not compatible with AP. Just a fact, not a judgment.

    of course, I don’t debate that. but you brought that up as a conclusion of matrix not being open. and it does not make sense. matrix not being compatible with AP is not because “matrix is closed” (whatever that means), but because the own protocol of matrix works vastly differently. its an entirely different thing. both are competing protocols for communication services. surely bridges could be developed, but these just cannot be “compatible”

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        6 days ago

        that’s the part I understood that way:

        But no, matrix is not fediverse, it’s not compatible and will never be (my opinion) because the commercial entity behind the matrix standards has no intention to open up that much the matrix ecosystem.

        • Shimitar@downonthestreet.euEnglish
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          6 days ago

          It is a commercial entity, and they will never evolve the matrix standards to include an Activity Pub interface. Sadly, since they are the ones approving the additions do matrix standards, they also have the power not toke that to be.

          So, yes, while matrix is open, is not really open in the sense that anyone can add pieces to the underlying.

          • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            5 days ago

            It is a commercial entity, and they will never evolve the matrix standards to include an Activity Pub interface.

            my point is I don’t think it’s reasonably possible

            Sadly, since they are the ones approving the additions do matrix standards, they also have the power not toke that to be.

            I don’t understand this. you can certainly try implementing some kind of compatibility bridge, they can’t prevent you from doing that