• Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    Yep, and we’ll do it again unless you answer to our demands of not pushing a genocider. Best of luck.

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      7 days ago

      Yes, I don’t want them either, but the alternative appears to be genocide, plus a bunch of other bullshit

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        6 days ago

        …the alternative appears to be genocide, plus a bunch of other bullshit

        Thats all the Democrats had to offer as well.

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          5 days ago

          If you can’t see the difference, I don’t know what to tell you, but no, they certainly aren’t great either, the whole thing needs to be scrapped for there to be a true democratic future

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            Who said that I couldn’t see the difference? I certainly never did.

            One of them gleefully bombs kids, supports rapists, tortures people, and arrests people for calling out those things. The other pretends that they think those things are bad, and pretends that they can’t do anything to stop it.

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        7 days ago

        Enjoy voting for Dem candidate Ted Cruz as he takes on Republican candidate mecha hitler in 2030. And then still punching left as you flail to try and understand your descent into fascism.

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      6 days ago

      Funny that I don’t see any of you ml users making a huge deal about the number of deaths resulting from the USAid funding, which by many estimates, is 5-10x those in Gaza.no chance that Harris would have cut that funding.

      Almost as if your arguments aren’t genuine.

      Besides, I doubt you can even vote in the US elections.

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        Funny that I don’t see any of you ml users making a huge deal about the number of deaths resulting from the USAid funding…

        Funny that I don’t see any of you world users making a huge deal about the number of deaths resulting from Democrats bombing kids, or supporting dictators, sending people to torture prisons.

        Almost as if your arguments aren’t genuine.

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          5 days ago

          Oh look, a new user account trying to bOtH sIdEs. Tell me, how have any of those things you mentioned improved with Trump?

          Funny that new users jump on with these naive bullshit takes, like somehow voting for Jesus Christ himself in November 2022 was an option.

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            Oh look, a new user account trying to bOtH sIdEs.

            Yeah, isn’t it terrible that people accurately point out when both sides keep pushing shit candidates and shit policies? If only there was some way to stop that.

            Tell me, how have any of those things you mentioned improved with Trump?

            They haven’t at all. I’m not sure why Libs keep asking me this, since I’ve never once claimed that they would be better under Trump. I love that Libs keep accusing me of things that I’ve never said, or claimed, because they can’t actually defend the awful decisions that their party makes.

            Funny that new users jump on with these naive bullshit takes, like somehow voting for Jesus Christ himself in November 2022 was an option.

            Yeah, isn’t it weird that people new people arrive and sign up to a system that lets them join? Crazy.

            I also find it funny that, when we were pointing out that the Dems were going to lose to Trump by running such shit-tier candidates, and shit-tier policies, we were told that the only reason we thought that, was because we were Russian assets.

            Of course, genocide being unpopular, or Biden being a terrible President and candidate, or the Dems sticking with unpopular policies, and screwing over their voting base aren’t to blame. It’s the people who thought bombing kids is bad, or genocide is bad, or that torture is bad who are really to blame.

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        6 days ago

        Not sure what USAID has to do at all with this conversation, but I’ll entertain it.

        Leftists reject the notion that USAID is simply a wholesome charity. It was the US arm of soft power, and it was an imperialist institution. If you are truly interested in this “disingenuous” take, see the Jacobin article on it.

        https://web.archive.org/web/20260410222517/https://jacobin.com/2025/02/usaid-digital-imperialism-trump-tech

        It tied aid to the adoption of neoliberal policies, privatization, and the opening of markets to US corporations. A striking example is the case of Haiti, where USAID pushed for trade liberalization and other neoliberal policies in the 1980s, leading to the collapse of domestic rice production in favor of cheap, subsidized imports in the 1990s. The result was devastating: Haiti became dependent on foreign aid for basic food security, its agricultural sector gutted to serve US agribusiness interests.

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          Nice cherry picking,

          You sailed right past that same article’s agreement that the sudden cease in funding will harm millions.

          Both points can be true, but your disingenuous quotation highlights your own insincerity in an honest dialogue.

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            5 days ago

            nose to spite face
            Leopards eating face
            Two things can be true
            Perfect enemy of good

            Good fucken lord man, do you only speak in reddit-ass catchphrases? Learn new phrases.

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              Oh no, you read my other comments.

              And that’s your comeback?

              A. Those phrases (except leopards…) have been around sooo much longer than reddit. And are quite applicable where I put them.

              B. Your own comments are pretty damn low effort, and honestly pretty stupid.

              People who live in glass houses should throw stones.

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      6 days ago

      Cutting off your nose to spite your face is not a compliment.

      You are the version of LeopardsAteMyFace that knew they were going to eat your face. But you were like, nah, I’m going to hug it anyway because your shoes are made with real leather.