Or are just fucked and perma kicked out of NATO and the UN? Or will we have to do a big World Wide Appology saying yes we fucked up but we are trying/will fix it.?

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    At this point, it’s hard to say. It’s still a bit early in the presidential cycle to ask if anyone has a plan for post-trump. You won’t really see that rhetoric popping up until early 2028.

    Is it possible/likely the next admin will be able to repair America’s reputation abroad? Again, hard to say at this point. Anyone telling you we’re all fucked forever or whatever is a silly doomer. Even someone worse than trump couldn’t dismantle the kind of influence/power America has diplomatically irreparably in such a short time. However, to help inform us of how things might look in the future; every region is the world has pivoted to moving to be more isolationist. Distrust and tensions are and will probably continue rising. Corporate capture is continuing to be a major worldwide problem. Conflict due to climate change is also on the rise. Many conservative movements, strongly encouraged by corporations, are doubling down on old tech in energy infrastructure and strongly pushing a [kinda] traditional nuclear family. Now without consequences, corporations are jumping hard into enshittification. Polarization in American politics just keeps getting worse and so much more stupid. I think these are many of the major issues that the trump admin has been directly responsible for either creating or making worse.

    Many of the elements that are currently changing the political landscape because of the trump admin really falls into two major categories: alignment of foreign powers and the problem of domestic corporations. NATO is likely to survive as-is. However, Europe is not only talking about becoming more independent militarily, they’re already actively making it happen. NATO will still be the primary military alliance for the foreseeable future, but if the American government continues to prove unreliable and the EU military reorganization is successful enough, I don’t see NATO continuing to be relevant. As for the trump admin cozying up to dictatorial states, I don’t think those relationships are sustainable due to their very nature, let alone the kind of attitude a Democrat administration would have toward those countries. More neutral countries are finding the increasingly unstable nature of American politics as a kind of vindication. While they aren’t exactly running into China’s arms or whatever, they’re certainly using the time of trump’s second term to ‘play both sides’ and are building some economic goodwill with China. Optically, China is looking pretty alright right now. It’s nothing that will guarantee China true superpower status that the ccp seems to be so horny for, but they can be kinda comfortable with their current position. Their aggressive rhetoric and economic practices will continue to hold them back in the eyes of the rest of the world, though. Russia/Putin? lol.

    So, all these things considered, America losing superpower status is extremely unlikely still. The dollar still reigns, the American military is still oversized, and American political influence is still very strong despite being weakened. Life in the west is still too comfortable to shake up the world order. While the trump admin is really fucking it up, the infrastructure to leave American hegemony is still fairly nonexistent. China is still not trustworthy and just not really built right for the task. It seems American allies are kinda holding their breath for the next admin to be more cooperative because they don’t have much of a choice. However, for Europe being put in this kind of position, it seems as though it was enough of a wakeup call for them to seriously make an effort to build themselves an exit. Canada is kinda geographically and economically stuck with the US. And Australia? lol, their government officials are basically just as unhinged as their American counterparts. While the political rhetoric of traditional US allies has been pretty vocal about permanent loss of trust in the US, it’s far from being so irrevocably broken as to kick the US out, less so because they don’t really want to leave, but more so because American power and it’s resilience tends to be underestimated somehow, realistic and desirable alternatives don’t exist, and the amount of damage trump can do/has done is usually blown wayyyy the fuck out of proportion. American hegemony isn’t under existential threat, but it has been weakened. Less like “THE CRACKS ARE SHOWING” and more like HP is at 95%. I’d keep an eye on how things develop over the next two years, but the needle only just showed it’s ability to move.

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      5 hours ago

      We need someone to stand up and be a leader.

      Obama was. Biden wasn’t. There doesn’t seem to be any obvious break-out political star like Obama or Clinton was. Both of whom were rather radical candidates for their time.

      And doesn’t look like there is any successor to Trump, who also won on star-power.

      Weirdly, the pols and campaign managers don’t seem to understand that to get people to vote… your candidate has to be likable and relatable and have a clear message. Probably because they are all well-off professionals living in the DC bubble, totally detached from the ordinary voters who decide elections.