Hasan Piker, an influential streamer and political commentator, has recently criticized Cornell University for allegedly punishing Palestinian student activists more severely than students accused of committing sexual assault. Piker’s claims have added to public outrage over the Ivy League school following the lawsuit filed against it over the alleged 2024 gang rape in a campus fraternity house.

During his visit to Cornell University on Thursday, when he addressed an audience of around 450 people at Sage Chapel, Piker commented that students participating in pro-Palestinian demonstrations have been given more severe punishments than students found guilty of committing sexual crimes. In particular, the controversial statements he made during his visit have spread rapidly online.

“You got more of a penalty at Cornell University if you participated in a pro-Palestine student encampment,” Piker has claimed. “I was talking to some of the leaders of the pro-Palestine encampments. One of them got expelled for a year. They got suspended for a year.”

“They got literally worse penalties in Cornell University than half of the rapists did, or than most of the rapists did,” Piker said. “It’s (expletive) nuts.”

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    chomsky described went on and on for decades about how media personalities that benefit the united states are artificially elevated and piker seems to be the next one in line like charlie kirk once was.

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        it doesn’t matter what i think – history has plenty of examples of compatible leftists like piker and they all lead to the same results: nowhere.

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            Kirk is an example of an artificially elevated voice not a compatible leftist.

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              He’s not a media personality that is being artificially elevated to benefit the United States though. Both the Republicans and the establishment Dems are fighting tooth and nail for people to stop listening to him. He’s prevailing because he’s not being artificially elevated - he’s being elevated by those that agree with his points against the US.

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                  Ah the age old guilt trip from leftists who enjoy such creators as Bad Empanada that routinely espouse anti-trans rhetoric.

                  I bet you defended Platner, too.

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                    Yeah BE famous for defending Platner.

                    Oh wait who was that… Ahh Hasan Piker. Oh wow isn’t that inconvenient for your narrative…

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          lol bad empanada is a really bad stain on the internet tbh, he’s all bark and no bite. People act like you have to take him seriously then he’s out there quoting victims of communism and saying slurs written by Nazis. It’s one thing if he was like, “my bad”, but he’s way more concerned with drama slop and being an edgelord than admitting he was wrong and being racist. It’s all fun and games til you gotta come back down from your YT views.

          Like, take his criticism of US and liberals for example; very poignant and truthful, necessary even. But then he goes and like, makes an edgy video game, and yall act like he can do no wrong. And don’t get me wrong. Even what he says about Judaism/zionism is true, so don’t tell me I’m just a dumb, offended American who thinks Jews are untouchable or whatever.

          I’m not “offended” by what he says cuz I’m American. I just don’t listen to edgelords, you’re really telling me making a cool “you get to be a liberation army” video game is like, cool and necessary? And arguing tooth and nail that Americans just care about feelings? sometimes I really don’t get it.

          FD had a really good point in his video about him, where BE treated him with complete disrespect, like he was above both people he was speaking to that were supposed to be his peers. Funny enough, both were trying to get him to recognize a point that BE had made before in other videos, before he became more focused on slop content. The childishness of the guy really sours any truthful thing he says.

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            FD got utterly demolished by BE it wasn’t even funny. And then he copied all BE’s arguments and pretended he always had them. I’m quite amazed anyone came away from that thinking good about FD. And that after IDF signifier ignored genocide for 2 years straight.

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              And that after FD signifier ignored genocide for 2 years straight.

              lol. No he didn’t. This is what I mean, his fanbase goes rabbid against people over drama slop. You care about the debate not the politics of the people who are creating. FD challenged people on Platners military service more than any other leftist I’ve seen, before libs came around. I appreciated that more than anything BE has ever done.

              BE used a Nazi slur against a black dude, and then tried to tell us that FD was actually saying Zionist was the slur. We can all see right past that smarmy edgelord shit dude.

              Less YouTube and more going out into the world and talking to people, now!

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                  Oh so now I can’t learn. You know, I actually blocked you once after I said something about Christians and you said “can’t say that about Jews yadda yadda”, and I said sure but I was making a statement on Mormons, and you kept insisting and annoying me that it was the same way if you said it about Jews and even tho I agreed, I wasn’t saying it about any other religion.

                  Then I noticed how much you post and I unblocked because my page was emptier after, so I sucked it up and played nice. Now I see where you get this annoying bullshit from 😂. Stay engaged in drama slop if you prefer, adults are speaking, if you wanna bring Bad Empanada’s emotional immaturity into this then I say good riddance

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                    Those low quality empanadas have really fucked that user’s brain. They blocked me too for saying that we should focus on criticizing Zionism instead of Jews in general.

                    Edgelord streamers with cults of personality are a menace to society.

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      Do you have any evidence that Hasan is being artificially elevated? Financial ties with billionaires, anything like that (which we absolutely had with Kirk)?

      It seems to me like Hasan’s audience is organic. Now, you could certainly argue that certain points get watered down, that he has an incentive to tell people what they want to hear in order to grow his audience. But if you’re claiming that he’s being propped up by George Soros or somebody, that probably calls for something more substantial than speculation.

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        history has proven that anyone who punches left – as piker does – is a compatible leftist at best and only a fool would presume that history won’t repeat because he’s your guy.

        besides, chomsky’s work speaks for itself.

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          1. He’s not my guy.

          2. Accusations should be backed by evidence, or they’re meaningless.

          3. History has not proven that anyone who punches left is artificially promoted. Some people who punch left are, not all.

          This is no different then all the libs who claim that we’re being paid off or promoted by foreign powers. I’m sure you could find examples of that sort of thing in history. Are those examples enough to extrapolate from, even if there’s no actual evidence beyond that?

          Not everyone who disagrees with you is a plant. Don’t overplay your hand.

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            compatible leftists aren’t plants and the difference between me and the libs is that shoulders of the giants i stand on have been proven right by history – repeatedly.

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              No, you have not.

              I’ve been trying to gently correct you back into a grounded criticism, like that he waters down his message to attract a larger audience. If you want to keep doubling down and insisting on this nonsense, then you’re just a conspiracy theorist. Regardless, it’s better that I call you out on it now than for you to make a fool of yourself in front of people who aren’t already leftists.

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                i already know i’m a fool, so you’re too late. lol

                besides, piecemeal criticisms of piker’s actions are just slow walking to the final conclusion that history – as well people smarter than you and i – already says will happen.

                also: i have no interest in proselytizing my beliefs to anyone – making any conspiracy theorist accusation silly.

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                  Did you know that Hasan makes everyone in his audience get the same haircut?

                  Sure, I just made that up, sure, it’s incredibly easy to prove it wrong, but hey, as long as it’s shitting on the right person, who gives a shit? If you don’t accept it then you’re just doing piecemeal criticisms and slow walking to the final conclusion.

                  Oh, wait. It’s me. I give a shit. Literally why my account is Phoenix Wright themed, because I fucking hate it when people talk shit and lob accusations that they can’t back up with evidence.

                  If only making accusations you can actually back up is “piecemeal criticism” then you can call me a “piecemeal critic.”

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                    i shared the name of a well respected figure whose body of work supports my assertion and hasn’t been debunked by history. where’s yours?

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                    Could have fooled us.

                    not very difficult to do, but fortunately – for the both of us – i have no interest in doing it.

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      Chomsky was describing normal media outlets who editorialised personalities to elevate.

      This does not apply here.

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        Social media has supplanted legacy media – it applies

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          Twitch isn’t social media. Nor do they have editorial control.

          Which was the point. So once again. It does not apply

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            if you think Bezos doesn’t have full control of what is put on their platform, you’re delusional.

            If he was really a threat, they’d make up some bullshit and ban him. They do it all the time to smaller streamers.

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              If he was really a threat, they’d make up some bullshit and ban him.

              Twitch literally banned Piker for saying “cracker” before.

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              lol you think Bezos cares or even knows what the top streamers are saying. He doesn’t. I bet he barely understands what twitch is.

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                dangerously naive to assume the enemy is a fool, especially when there’s been no indication as such. I’m sure he understands what Twitch is and how it slots into the Amazon media empire.

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                  Well yeah but that doesn’t mean he personally has full control, Twitch has its own CEO and everything. I’m not saying this makes it immune to astroturfing and things like that.

                  Companies like twitch, google (YouTube), Sony music and Warner bros operate on a profit basis. What makes money = what’s popular. If communist podcasts/twitch streamers/tv personalities were actually a threat, they’d try to silence them. I’d argue the Trump admin is, though amazon makes money from him and have a reason not to care about the message like Trump’s cabinet seems to. They’re giving him (Hasan) HUGE airtime on Fox News pretty much nightly now. Reaching millions of people he hadn’t before, your parents possibly, etc. Calling him an Anti-American terrorist.

                  After all, Hasan, deprogram, or any semi lefty content people aren’t gonna single handedly start the revolution tomorrow. These types of people (Hasan) aren’t really a threat to capitalism at the end of the day. It’s a process n all that. Capitalists do know this. Rage against the Machine made Sony millions off of anti-imperialist content.

                  Jeff himself and other billionaires are having the time of their lives up there not giving a fuck about shit. They got hundreds, if not thousands of people dedicated directly making line go up. Hasan makes money and is a tiny part of that, so in their minds who gives a fuck if he’s all libbed up or whatever. It makes money. Ban him every now & then for saying 9/11 and cracker or whatever, generate a buzz, let him back on, make more money, on and on.

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              Full control? No, not really. Streamers and the platforms are well aware of the contentious nature of their relationship.

              Could Bezos just ban Piker. Yeah I’ve no illusions he could.

              But would he? Nah I don’t think so.

              But we were talking about the artificial elevation of certain voices. If they were able to do so, we would not be having this discussion, like wouldn’t be here.

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      Was that before or after Chomsky was making hundreds of thousands of dollars from someone named Jeffrey Epstien.