• Melobol@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    No those are morals. Religion helped to use those rules against “others”. ‘You should not rape your friends wife, but you can do anything with yours.’ look at the Bible and those marriage rules.
    ‘You should not do business outside the tribe’ - several current religions still have this rule, a bit more softened.
    And so on.
    Those are morals set by ruling class = religion or god kings (example: pharaohs). They are the foundation of society.And that’s what I keep saying. Morals and society has the foundation in religion.

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      6 days ago

      We’re going to have to agree to disagree about this. I simply don’t believe that religion came before society and morals unless I see some evidence.

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        Evidence is human history. All early civilizations had god kings. They were religious leaders. First part is that they were god given second part they were ruling class. And ruling class always sets the morals/laws of the people it rules.

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          It would probably be difficult to find evidence of which predates which but if you say religion is the foundation for society and morals then every society must have a religion right? As far as researchers understand, the Pirahã tribe in the Amazon have no religion. If there is a present day society with no religion then there likely were in the past as well. That makes it difficult for me to believe religion is the foundation of society if there are societies with no religion.

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            If there is a dozen societies that dont have religion and thousands that has … Which ponnt stands?