• abcd@feddit.org
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      21 days ago

      Imagine: You are the first human approaching the moon for a landing since 50+ years. Just a couple of seconds before touchdown the PC starts rebooting because an engineer clicked remind me later on earth and the PC registered that nobody moved the mouse or pressed a key for more than 3 nanoseconds so the user is surely AFK and has definitely nothing important going on so let’s close all open documents and reboot 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      21 days ago

      You wouldn’t and they didn’t.

      The article has just failed to inform the readers (the few that got past the headline), that this was on his personal Surface Tablet and not on anything associated with the mission.

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        20 days ago

        If it’s on the ship, it’s associated with the mission. Windows has a very high habit of barfing so over itself, as is evidenced by this article. It’s bonkers to me that they chose to use Windows for anything at all.

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          20 days ago

          I don’t think the phone in my pocket is “associated with my job” when I’m working, just because it’s in the same location. Do you?

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            20 days ago

            False equivalency.

            If you were going on a 10 day hike to the most remote location on earth, would you bring the most unreliable device you could find, or something you can count on?

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              20 days ago

              You don’t understand. Their personal device can be trashed immediately without any drawbacks to the mission.

              If I go on a 10 day hike to the most remote location on Earth, and bring my yoyo to have some fun with, I really don’t care if it breaks on my hike, and the hike is not affected except for my not having fun with my yoyo.

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      21 days ago

      I hope not. If they ask it to summarize the email that Houston sends them, it could be a disaster.

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          21 days ago

          Heresy, using an actual AGI example. Also, HAL did nothing wrong. It’s always the humans that screw things up. (2010 for reference)

          Unpopular opinion - both SkyNet and the AI in The Matrix were also not in the wrong. I think The Animatrix documents why that’s true in that particular franchise. Again, it’s the humans. Hell, maybe even Ultron had a few good points, he just went insane in the first microseconds trying to rationalize it all.

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    20 days ago

    Every time Microsoft does an update, they reduce functionality. Basic functions like print, search and file storage get moved into sub-sub-sub menus. The point of this is to make room on the main screen for ads. Screwing up your work flow gives you more time to look at them. This is intentional.

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    21 days ago

    The article leaves out that this was on Commander Wiseman’s personal tablet, a Microsoft Surface Pro and not any device associated with the mission.

    He sought tech support for internet connectivity issues on a PCD (personal computing device), which is a Microsoft Surface Pro.

    The ‘Two Microsoft Outlooks’ was a description of the issue he was having. The headline is implying that there are two machines running Outlook that don’t work.

    NASA detected that the PCD was actually on a network. It asked the commander for permission to connect to the tablet remotely so it could look into a problem with the Optimus software. “I also see that I have two Microsoft Outlooks and neither one of those are working,” Wiseman responded, per a clip shared by Niki Grayson on Bluesky. “If you wanna remote in and check Optimus and those two Outlooks, that would be awesome.”

    The source of the quotes and a better article:

    https://www.engadget.com/computing/artemis-ii-crew-is-just-like-us-needs-help-with-microsoft-outlook-issues-145230968.html

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      20 days ago

      How fast is their internet connection? I didn’t expect them to be able to “remote in”, I thought the latency would be awful

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      21 days ago

      My question exactly: The computers should be purpose-built, including the operating system.

      Why TF aren’t they using something like NASA Linux‽

      If they made it open source you bet your ass they’d get shittons of free support from the global community! If they’re running my software I’d be willing to hop on a call with the command center on any day at any hour!

      “Yes, I know it’s Christmas but NASA is having some trouble with a systemd script on a space ship that’s currently in space…”

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        My question exactly: The computers should be purpose-built, including the operating system.

        They are, mission critical systems are typically on a Unix/Linux base or completely custom built.

        The systems that use Windows are the ones related to office work, like updating the crew’s bank information and distributing pay.

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      Very likely that some degree of funding came from MS, usage of MS software is likely part of the contract.

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      Have you ever used outlook?

      It’s the worst, and no, it never works. The company I work at forces outlook on us, still, and there are some 5% of users that can’t mail each other. Why? Don’t know! I send a mail to a person, outlook logs say it was delivered, it’s nowhere to be found. What to do? According to the company, just live with it and creat new accounts from scratch when it happens

      We could ask support as the company pays hefty windows license fees but even there it’s tucked up as M$ refuses to help directly it needs to go through some support company that wants that we pay them even more no ey separately for the long list of microbugs.

      I find it almost hilarious, if I didn’t have to work with it myself.

      Giving astronauts outlook accounts is just mean

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        Recently started a new job and for the first time I’m fully emersed in the Microslop software suite. Somehow Outlook and Teams haven’t failed critically but I still hate them. Someone emails me a PDF, so I open it. No, I don’t want to open PDFs inside Outlook, so I download the PDF. Where is it? Is it on my Onedrive or does the file actually exist on my computer? Does anything exist on my computer?

        In my personal life I haven’t touched Windows in about 4 months now and I don’t want to go back, although I’ll probably be booting up Windows 10 because I just downloaded the pre-alpha version of Kitten Space Agency. Planning to try Bazzite soon, we’ll see how that goes, I’ve heard good things.

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          Outlook is just impressively bad. When I came back to work from the weekend, there was this attack on one of our sites that sent out a notification for each attack it detected and I came to work to 20K new emails.

          Ever tried, to delete 20K emails from outlook? Its amazingly stupid! First of all, you can’t just bulk select. Search won’t help either (Search half the time returns nothing anyways) so you have to kind of select one, scroll 2387942 times down until you are a few thousand mails in. Now, this is important: Click correctly! If you click wrong, all the mails you’ve selected so far will be unselected again and you have to start over. Press shift, and select a mail. Now you have a few thousand mails selected. Press delete.

          And now go for a coffee because you won’t be able to use your outlook for the next 30 minutes. You can’t open mails, can’t refresh the page (you’ll get a crash page if you do). Half an hour later, outlook reloads again, and you’ll see that it successfully deleted about 80% of your selected mails. The other 20%, I hear you ask? Yeah, those were just not deleted. Why? I don’t know? Why are you asking me?!

          I would constantly see “There are 6K mails” and then the table where the mail headers are shown shows 7 mails… Load more? Nope, nothing, need to reload the page.

          Try copy paste! Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccckkk if they don’t crash, they will just piss you off… Now pasting gets you this weirdo paste box. You can’t type anymore, there is this stupid paste thing floating, and you need to press ESC to continue.

          Half the time I’m writing an email and the text formatting options just disappear, and I can’t do any formatting anymore. I can fix this, I just have to get out, to go drafts, reopen the mail I was writing because fuck you, that’s why.

          How about outlook365? Its awesome and amazing! I write text and I can see bits and pieces of the text I wrote previously just disappear, like its high on Alzheimer. You literally just see parts of paragraphs disappear while you are writing below. Best part of this? Then you change your useragent to say that you’re not on linux, but on windows, and the problem magically resolves itself!

          Microsoft is the worst software company ever