• FishFace@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    You can desire whatever you want, and I can desire whatever I want. The only difference (assuming you are agreeing with the person I replied to) is that I don’t go around telling people I deserve what I desire when it is hard to get. There are innumerable ways the world does not cater to my desires - some overlap with the ways it does not cater to yours, some do not.

    If your basic human rights are not being met, I’ll come out for you, just as, I’m sure, you’d come out for me. But this is about fashion.

    Like, you know it’s pretty easy to get longer skirts and dresses with pockets, right? If it were about pockets, you’d just wear the clothes with pockets.

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      3 days ago

      So if I want pockets, my only choices are dresses or skirts. Because women are not allowed to have choices. Because women are not allowed to have functional pockets in jeans. Because women are not allowed to have functional pockets in non form fitting clothing.

      Got it. Thank you, a man, for telling me, a woman, that I do not have other options and that I should just deal with it.

      I suggest you go read a book, try this one.


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        3 days ago

        You have the choice to:

        • Buy a skirt
        • Buy a dress
        • Buy sweatpants
        • Buy jeans from one of the retailers listed in this thread
        • Buy jeans with unusable pockets and alter them
        • Buy “men’s” clothes
        • Carry a bag with you

        You have choices. You are unhappy with the choices available, but are instead saying you have none.

        If you complained “I am unhappy with these choices” instead of complaining, “I am not allowed to have choices” you would not get people replying about the other choices you do, in fact, have.

        You, a man

        No thank you.

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          3 days ago
          • Buy a skirt I don’t want to and shouldn’t have to wear a skirt all the time for pockets
          • Buy a dress see above
          • Buy sweatpants see above
          • Buy jeans from one of the retailers listed in this thread pictures don’t mean they actually have proper pockets and I don’t buy pants online because I need to try them on to make sure they fit my hips
          • Buy jeans with unusable pockets and alter them this is something I have done, but should be unnecessary for pants that are not form fitting
          • Buy “men’s” clothes these don’t fit my hips and when I wear a belt, it bunches the waist and gets extremely uncomfortable
          • Carry a bag with you I do this, but I shouldn’t have to always carry a purse to have my ID on me

          I just want damn pockets in my non form fitting clothes. Why is that such a sin for a woman to complain about?

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            3 days ago

            If you don’t want the obvious replies, frame the complaint in a way that doesn’t invite them. The original post is someone talking about the “right to have deeper jeans pockets” which invites the point that women already have options for deep jeans pockets.

            I’m not here telling you that all the choices you have are as good as the choice you wish you had.

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              3 days ago

              So you’re a pedantic ass. Got it.

              I’m going to go play in my garden. You should go read a book, maybe start with the one I posted above.

              Have a day.

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          Show me where any of us have said there are 0 options.

          You should really read the comment section before you decide to grace us with your superior male knowledge.

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              3 days ago

              You’ve never read sarcasm in your life before?

              That user also details in further comments that they were being hyperbolic.

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          3 days ago

          We’re quite literally saying that we’re unhappy with the options we have.

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      3 days ago

      Let people complain about annoyances, dude. It’s really fucking annoying to have someone bust in and loudly proclaim that others have it worse so we should shut up.

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        3 days ago

        There’s a world of difference between a complaint that acknowledges the privilege of even being in a position to complain about fashion and one which mistakenly or dishonestly mischaracterises what is wrong as something more severe.

        Imagine if I complained I was thirsty all the time because the local shop stopped stocking coke, and that I deserved to have something to drink. Wouldn’t you roll your eyes and tell me to drink water? Wouldn’t you react differently if I said I was bummed because the shop ran out of coke and I just wanted some? Being honest/aware of what the actual issue is makes all the difference.

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          3 days ago

          You really saw a problem that women were discussing and decided to put us all in our place.

          I’m so glad we have a man here to explain this to us. Whatever would we have done without you??

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            I saw a problem being mischaracterised. I’m so sorry that I had the temerity to point out the choices available to you.

            Whatever would we have done without you??

            Continued to complain you “deserve pockets” that you absolutely can have.

            Take your horrible inaccurate assumptions somewhere else. I won’t be reading any replies.

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              3 days ago

              It’s clear you didn’t read any comments before adding your own, so not reading replies is exactly what I expect from you.