When will they ever learn?
This is literally a “I need to meet an OKR” decision
What a coincidence, I want to edge every time I open my computer.
Linux Mint is so awesome.
I have many linux distros running in the house for servers and self hosted software but the one box i havent swapped yet is my daily driver system. Microsoft is pushing me ever closer but with some titles still not supporting linux and getting to the end of a day i just want to game not debug something.
Its getting close though. Fuck this timeline. I looked at Pop OS and bazzite as out of the box gaming distros but am open to anything.
Want games are holding you back. Between lutris and steam’s proton compatibility I personally haven’t run across much.
So as i started to list out all software on my windows box to check for linux support i cane across a game. HBS battletech 2018, with the battletech advanced mod. Is a overhaul. They have linux instructions but its not a guarantee.
Ohhh I will jump on this one as well.
EAs WRC is unsupported, this isn’t a deal breaker by itself but is a contributing factor. AC Rally isn’t in a place to challenge it for now, but should get there eventually. I could also play more dirt rally 2.0 as well
Le Mans Ultimate, the performance for me is unacceptable. Jumping from 30 to 140fps and makes me feel motion sick because of that. It is my main racing sim, and dealing with that for long endurance races is impossible. Yes I had the LMU fork of proton, it is the only way to get into races. But the LMU Devs are not exactly Linux friendly and aren’t trying to help out.
And that’s about it for games that don’t work for me. If LMU worked as well or close to on Linux as it does on windows I would switch. But it is such a huge portion of my pc use I am having to use windows for now
All of EA’s new titles use Javelin anti-cheat. It uses a Windows kernel module, so it’s not possible to run with Wine/Proton.
Given that EA forces users to run what is effectively a rootkit just to play their games, I feel like the only good choice is to stop playing those games altogether. Or, at the very least, compartmentalize your gaming machine and the network it’s on.
Yeah this along with their insistent focus of producing AI slop makes me not even want to look at games from EA. I admittedly haven’t even tried any recent EA games but that has more been due to lack of interest in their recent titles.
It’s worth the switch. Bazzite Is a solid choice. I would stay away from PopOS for now. CachyOS is a great high performance choice, especially if you have Linux experience.
So i have ubuntu, mint, and pop os running currently. And unraid if that counts.
Could you toss out 3-5 solid distros that good for gaming compatibility or general use? I will look up cachy OS. Also id i may ask whats up with pop os? Drama in the distro?
Along with bazzite and cachyos, I will throw in Nobara which is fedora but gaming focused and supported by glorious egg roll.
Has been the distro I have had the most success with, even if I have had to go back to windows because of certain sim racing stuff being a bit rubbish on Linux(for now)
Thank you for the recommendation! I will add it to my list.
They’ve moved to cosmic DE, which isn’t quite ready for primetime in my opinion. Best distros for gaming in my opinion would be cachy, fedora, bazzite. I use Arch, which I feel is the best choice, but not for everyone.
After not ever having set up a gaming focused distro, I gotta say, I was shocked at how seamless CachyOS makes it. Outside of creating the install media, installing CachyOS and getting everything set up to game takes like 10 minutes.
Who’s computer is it?
Corporates drool over the idea of making it their computer and having you pay monthly for a service (right to use it)
Could someone PLEASE build an idiot proof way to permanently remove Edge from your system!?
Install Linux
Then, install the Linux version of edge for the perverse thrill
It can not exist. Microsoft can and will bring it back if they want to. Unless you are also disabeling all windows updates, the computer will never be under your control. And disabeling windows updates … lets just say there hasnt been a month without a 9-10/10 security vulnerability in a microsoft product in a long time.
Winhance, winscript, edgevanisher
If they were actively trying to push people towards Linux, would their choices look any different? Perplexing.
IMO they’d be wise to take every step they can to make the OS feel like it belongs to the user, but more and more the attitude seems to be “it’s our OS, so we do what we want” which is their right, but it’s shit marketting that makes them feel more like Apple every day.
Laughs in Linux
If my school didn’t absolutely require windows I would be fully Linux at this point.
I do have a few other pet peewees too for Linux, despite having that on my ThinkPad.
- GDB is pretty uncomfortable to use.
- The only usable GDB GUI is a glorified webpage by none other, than Micro$lop.
- Some low-level API (sound, input, etc.) are absolutely dogshit compared to their Windows counterparts (still haven’t found anything on how to specify to ALSA if I want to open a device other that
default, and how exactly, just found a massive issue with Evdev, etc.). - Want something better than those? jUsT USe sDl, except SDL is kind of dogshit under Windows (DirectInput/XInput + DirectAudio instead of newer APIs), could not get its audio system working at all as people were instead suggesting me to use MP3 player DLLs instead of writing my own audio solutions, etc.
Bit specific, but for opening an audio device other than default, you should use the API of a sound server. Pulseaudio’s for instance. The new hotness is Pipewire, and it has its own API, but it also supports the Pulseaudio API and AFAWK most clients (apps and things) are still using that.
The sound server sits on top of ALSA and handles all the routing and mixing and shit. ALSA is lower level than what you need as an app/user program dev.
(Pipewire also supports the JACK API. Music apps and such used to use JACK because it was lower latency than Pulseaudio. Which meant you had to stop Pulse and start JACK and lose all sound from your other apps and it was a right pain. Pipewire just does both.)
– Frost
VS Code is far from the best GDB GUI; in fact I would confidently say that everything about running and debugging in VS Code has been the biggest pain I have ever experienced. even with its recent decade of inattention from the community, Eclipse CDT is miles better than this thing. i’d wager that even Qt Creator is better than it
Anyways, JetBrains recently made CLion free for non-commercial, so that’s what you should use. it is obviously better than VS Code
Honestly (and probably naïvely), what exactly is it that Windows can do that you couldn’t do on another OS? Why would a school need to force such a retarded requirement?
This is a fairly naive take. It’s this way because the infrastructure is built this way. If it was easy for an org to entirely switch to Linux, they would.
As someone who has been dealing with exactly this issue with my new employer’s enterprise ICT department, I have some insight to share.
When you have thousands and thousands of laptops that you need to manage, it becomes a burden for the in-house IT department, so they often farm it out to a Managed Service Provider (MSP). This is particularly common for organisations like schools and hospitals that often don’t even have an in-house IT department. The MSP will install policies and management software on the laptops to ensure the OS is up to date, the antivirus is not disabled, the VPN is configured correctly, passwords are changed regularly, etc.
Yes of course there are linux-native solutions for each of these things, but the MSP doesn’t support it, doesn’t offer that service. To keep their service prices affordable for enterprise organisations, MSPs usually hire the lowest cost technicians and support staff. These poor underpaid staff probably have never even heard of Linux. The MSP can increase their marketable value by advertising the certifications they’ve attained. The certifications are provided by Microsoft and are related to Microsoft software and systems.
If you have a small fleet of devices and an in-house IT team that has a bunch of Linux enthusiasts, and a user base who drives demand, then it is possible to support Linux. But it requires a lot of effort and dedication. My old employer did that. They had a fleet of around 5,500 devices (a mix of desktops and laptops), mostly Windows, approx 500 of them were macbooks, and about 50 were Linux. Some of these were users who needed to use software that is available only on Linux, some were like me who are simply more productive and efficient using a linux-based OS. But maintaining, administering and supporting those 50 Linux devices took around 20% of the time of the IT department. That’s massively disproportionate to the number of Linux users.
Not long after I left there, the new CTO put an end to that, they saw and easy cost saving by simply refusing to allow users to have any OS other than Windows.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this is such great detail! You’ve made it crystal clear 😊👌
Ease of management and surveillance (most such tools marketed at schools are Windows only), first class integration into active directory for user and computer account management, hardware agnostic (rules out macos), and it’s already integrated into the IT team’s systems and processes so switching would be a major effort.
That makes sense, thank you! I wasn’t really thinking about managing “internal” computers, only in terms of “you must use this specific software on your (personal) computer”, which clearly ignores huge parts of the issue.
I thought we settled this years ago
Glad that they specified WindyPlop11. Linux wins in every branch of every one its splendid variations
Its sometimes fun to watch this drama from the otherside. Windows is ‘that other OS’ for me now. I was switching between Linux and Windows a while ago, and made a permanant switch around 2021-ish (I think). I only use Windows at work as I don’t have a choice, and in certain instances where I’m forced to use a Windows device e.g. for online exams, etc…
Good for them. Chrome needs a corporate competitor, and the recent lawsuits that (I think) prevent Google from giving FireFox hundred million dollar bribes might lead to a diminished product.
Since edge is also based on chromium, I’m not sure how meaningful it would be to me. We need more engines so we do not end up with one engine dictating how things work in the internet.
I prefer Firefox, so I was using that as default browser. Windows asked me every fucking time I started my laptop if I wanted to use edge as default. Sometimes it just went ahead and made the change anyway. Windows was consuming loads of my download data, fuck knows what for. Then the copilot stuff. Finally installed mint and feel like I got my laptop back.
Windows was consuming loads of my download data, fuck knows what for.
Background updates of all the minor services running. I only had 360kbit/s for a while two years ago and windows could take a few hours until it was finished. You usually don’t notice it but I literally couldn’t use the internet until windows decided it was done.
I only had 360kbit/s for a while
they still sell dsl that slow here… and of course the telephone company charges those people even more than they do in town for 20-60mbit dsl or 100-1000mbit fiber.
Was there no registry key that you could modify to stop that behaviour?
I’ve been down that road.
- It’s experimental
- It’s opt-in
- Opt out once when prompted
- Turn off once in Settings
- Turn off once in registry <-- we are here
- Turn off three places in registry
- Turn off every boot in registry
- Install 3rd party app to disable
- Install 3rd party OS to disable
Install 3rd party OS to disable
That’s the first step
I have an idea. Linux should start automatically everytime you boot you PC.
If you want to open Edge without actually wanting to open it, just accidentally click on one of the advertisements in the main menu or any info area widget. Those ignore the default browser and always open Edge.
My new work computer on both teams and outlook just open edge with any links too ignoring my default browser preference. My last one obeyed like a good computer.
You can change this in settings.
There are links that use a specific “edge” link type that you can’t assign to other browsers without admin access. So if it’s a work computer you’re kinda boned
You can definitely change Teams to use the default browser and not edge without admin access.
I’m pretty sure you can do the same with Outlook. Other links such as the start search menu sure you can’t change them.
There’s an edge redirector app you can get which redieects edge:// links to your default browser
