/e/OS is not fully degoogled, as DNS connectivity checks, hardware attestation provisioning, and eSIM activation all go through Google.

It is often many weeks or months behind on security updates, especially in the WebView, which makes it easy to exploit.

It doesn’t support bootloader locking on many devices, and if you lock the bootloader on a phone that does support it, it could brick if /e/OS is on an older security patch than the stock ROM was.

It doesn’t use a lot of the hardening in GrapheneOS such as hardened_malloc which prevents memory corruption exploits, even if the hardware supports it.

And finally, /e/OS’s text-to-speech sends what you say to OpenAI, despite local options being available.

If you want a properly secure Android phone, the best option is GrapheneOS, however it only supports Pixel phones and future Motarola phones due to its high security requirements.

If you can’t get a Pixel then iOS in lockdown mode is the next best option, however if you can’t replace your phone, LineageOS is much worse than Graphene although it is still much better than /e/.

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    As someone who bought a Murena FairPhone 5 with /e/OS preinstalled because I had the option to pay a reasonable price for a decent phone that isn’t Google branded, and have been enjoying the experience with it for a while now, I don’t think I’m going to fall for that very obvious rage bait that’s been copy-pasted from an aggressive forum post.

    I’ll give GrapheneOS my attention when it works on more than one phone. I hear Motorola is building a second phone for it to be compatible with.

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    Sorry but this sounds again like the typical e/Os bashing from GrapheneOS users.

    Those two system are not the same. One is focused on security and the other on privacy.

    Yes I know about the issues of e/OS, but it is still better than using Google or Apple.

    For me personally I moved cause I don’t want to support american companies. So Graphene was no option, as I would need to give google some money or buy one 2nd hand. But Pixels are still quite expensive compared with others.

    Why do you always need to attack other systems, they can coexist. We should be happy people have more options to break free from Big Tech companies.

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      There is no privacy without security. Android is one of the most widely exploited OSes and every month a dozen or more critical severity vulnerabilities are patched. Being 1-2 months behind on security patches is inexcusable for a privacy project.