French President Emmanuel Macron on Thursday said it would be unrealistic to launch a military operation to force open the Strait of Hormuz after US President Donald Trump challenged allies to work towards reopening it. In unusually strong criticism, Macron accused Trump of constantly contradicting himself on the Iran war and of undermining faith in the NATO military alliance.

    • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      7 days ago

      It’s funny because it wasn’t closed by force, it was closed by nervous insurance companies, by companies not wanting to move their ships through if they’re not insured.

      Like Iran isn’t patrolling it with some blockade, sinking any ship that dares run it. In fact they haven’t sunk a single ship as far as I know. They’ve just made it clear that they still pose a risk to any ship that passes And that theoretical risk is enough to spook insurance companies and stop ships.

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    8 days ago

    Macron should be a bit more realistic. Expecting Trump to be serious?!?

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    So Trump created this whole mess. Then he is asking others to go there and put their necks on the line to fix the wreck he created and what he can’t fix.

    You create the mess, you fix the mess.

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      8 days ago

      Iran has given him a clear plan what should be done to open the strait. Trump could literally open it tomorrow if he wasn’t such an ass.

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      Trump is trying to bait them in for ww3. He doesn’t benefit in any way from being humiliated. He needs WW3 so he can try to remain in power. Without power, hell spend the rest of his days in a cell.

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        Honestly I doubt that Democrats would move for prosecution. This is the party of Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. There’s no way they want consequences for a member of their own class.

        Now, if Trump were a leftist and breaking norms to the benefit of the working class, he’d already be executed.

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      That wouldn’t solve anything - Europe doesn’t actually get much oil through Hormuz, the issue is that the closure raises global oil prices regardless of where they come from. This isn’t a situation individual countries can carve out exceptions for themselves from - hence why the worst affected by this will be poor countries that had fuck all to do with Trump’s decision to fuck everyone over. And why America as a whole needs to start sorting its shit out for everyone’s sake and stop just telling the rest of the world to ignore Trump if he’s being a pain like he’s a doddery old relative and not the commander in chief of the most powerful military in the world.

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        Europe should get together with Russia and China to negotiate a peace deal. Russia could agree to store and process Iran’s enriched uranium, something which it has already suggested. The uranium could be given to Iran as needed for peaceful purposes. In return, Europe would end all sanctions. The strait of Hormuz would be opened as soon as the US and Israel stop bombing Iran. If Iran agrees to such a deal, Trump might be willing to follow since there would be no more uranium to bomb and Europe, Russia, and China have left him isolated.

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          None of that fulfills Trump’s obligations to the oil industry to destabilize the world order and keep a risk premium in oil.

          Remember, he went begging to the US oil execs for campaign cash, promised they’d get what they wanted. Iran, the blocking of green energy projects, the opening of the rest of Gulf of Mexico to drilling, and Venezuela and more are all paying back that obligation.

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            That’s the reason Europe, Russia, and China should get together and make a deal without the US. Trump doesn’t just want to prevent Iran from building a nuclear bomb but wants to control Iran just as he’s controlling Venezuela.