Donald Trump said Sunday that if no peace deal is reached with Iran in the next 48 hours, “we’re blowing up the entire country.”
The president made the threat Sunday to ABC News’ senior political correspondent Rachel Scott in response to a question regarding whether his previously stated timeline of two to three weeks for a deal was still accurate.
Concerns have been raised about targeting civilian infrastructure in Iran and the consequences that could bring.
But we saved gaza, right?
Right?
No? It was never on the table, considering US and Israel’s history, was it?
But US coming face off? And even their loyal vassal states not touching the shit you get into.
Yea, can’t hide those war crimes behind the world police and hollywood “good guys” facade anymore. Scum
We had a canidate that wouldn’t be committing these war crimes.
But glad you’re happy that you can prove the US isn’t the good guy and it only cost Iranian lives
Jill Stein? I guess I don’t remember them saying anything supporting Israel but they were also just a known spoiler candidate so they hardly count.
You know international law gets fuzzy with supplying weapons and money. Which is what the US was providing Israel. Now we have the US military attacking nations directly.
So let me be clear we wouldn’t have invaded Venezuela and we wouldn’t be invading Iran. Those are the war crimes.
And were not even getting into the domestic issues thse days, lots of death there too.
But yeah let’s focus on one thing and ignore all the other way worse direct involvement actions that never would have happened
Have you been doing any Palestine solidarity work or is gaza just a gotcha for you?
Did we though?
You clearly didn’t. I’m not American so I’m not part of your “we”. Your turn: is Gaza just a gotcha for you?
“You can only care about Gaza if you pass my morality test. Don’t worry no matter what you did, I’ll arbitrarily judge it as not enough.”
Congratulations you defeated the strawman you created.
I asked for a minimal (do you do anything or is it just a rhetorical device?) not any kind of maximal (pass my morality test).
I pointed out the ludicrousness of your morality arguements. You want to talk rhetorical fallacies you’ve created a character arguement and set yourself as the only judge.
You threw out the facts and changed the arguement to be about the commentors’ morality, as you perceive it.
Don’t pretend to care about fallacies when your own hypocrisy is pointed out
The moral argument I made is precisely this:
That’s the fact, visible to anyone just a few posts up the thread. Nothing thrown away.
From this you assumed that I was setting up a different kind of gotcha, where I would instantly dismiss as not enough anything the other party would say. That’s your assumption, not what I said. The fallacy you accuse me of requires your assumption, does not stand on what I wrote alone. That in turn is exactly a strawman fallacy.
And yet you still choose to ignore the fallacy in setting up a morality test in the first place. Astonishing
Good. Neither am i.
It’s too bad your favorite cop thought supporting a genocide was more important than winning the election. Alas, your candidate was shit.
I’d argue the people who thought their smug self righteousness was more important are shit myself.
But hey, now we all get to live in this hell right? Or not live I guess.
Let me get this straight
refusing to stop supporting genocide: not shit
refusing to support a genocide: shit
If you just have to take whatever crap politicians shove down your throat instead of making demands of them why do you care about anything Trump does. If you love the boot that much then shut up and take it.
Sorry for being ‘self righteous’ about a literal genocide you fucking ghoul. If you’re unwilling to exercise electoral leverage to stop a genocide then just abandon the entire concept of democracy. It is not the left’s fault that Kamala and the DNC thought the genocide must continue at all costs.
Voting against Hitler isn’t garbage because those in opposition could have influenced Harris or used their intact democracy to work on the issue by primaring dems.
The destruction of usaid alone will cause millions of preventable deaths including many kids. The stadium full of dead kids doesn’t care about your feelings
Yeah but they saved gaza!
Only they didnt. If anything their efforts have started to associate anti-genocide with a disaster like trump and practically guarantee people either switch off in disgust of their rethoric or just jump to the other side to avoid all the tankie bullshit.
So you’re saying your party is so pro-genocide that they can’t even convince people they meet Republican moral standards, which basically don’t exist.
‘disgusting anti-genocide rhetoric’ literally burn it all down if that’s where we’re at.
Organizations other than the CIA are capable of distributing food and vaccines
Maybe harris should have thought it was worth not supporting a genocide to prevent that then.
You guys still haven’t caught on that you’re missing the core of this. There were 2 groups that refused to budge which allowed trump to take power. One group refused to support a genocide, one group refused to stop supporting a genocide.
So how the fuck are libs more mad about the anti-genocide group for refusing to budge? Seems worth being stubborn about to me, you know, if you think genocide is bad.
I would have maybe a single ounce of sympathy for the lib side of this argument if the stakes were lower. ‘You don’t always get everything you want’ is a hell of a lot more convincing if the left had refused to play ball over healthcare reform or something. But jesus christ ‘don’t do genocide’ is the lowest possible bar to clear and Kamala still refused.
Harris isn’t responsible for how we vote that is our and only our responsibility.
They did the beat job providing a convincing platform they knew how obviously insufficient but she like us got one vote
Harris is absolutely responsible for her platform being pro-genocide what are you on about. It is the candidate’s job to appeal to voters, all she offered to the left was ‘I’m not him so you have to vote for me’. Turns out we didn’t have to. I’m not going to leave the house to maybe get 99% hitler with 1% handwringing instead of 100% hitler.
Its our job to vote for whichever party will be better for America regardless of whether we agree on all areas
So you don’t care how many poor people die as long as “US bad”. I’m glad their lives are bargain chips to you
Unlike the Gazan lives that you definitely aren’t willing to concede as bargaining chips.
And right back around to the bad faith arguments.
Nuance is dead the world is black and white and either perfect or bad.
Not voting says you are happy for either candidate to win, not that you want neither to win. If you want that option, campaign for PR. What is your plan to get rid of Trump now?
Most of us don’t like Kamala, but we voted for her because we’re not fucking morons.
Who was your candidate?
The arrogance behind that statement is disgusting.
He’s right! That Communist Kamala would have sided with Israel and gaza would be nothing more than a pile of rubble.
If it wasn’t for Trump, both the Ukraine war and the Israeli war on Gaza would still be happening! Fuck think of all the dogs and the cats he’s saved in Bumfuck Nebraska from those immigrants!
^…checks notes…^ fuck.
‘you stupid lefties wouldn’t settle for sacrificing tens of thousands of Gazans so that we could go back to brunch, I bet you sure regret it’
-person who still hasn’t questioned why sacrificing Gaza was a foregone conclusion
One note Gaza Gaza Gaza. I don’t hear you fucks ever talk about all the other suffering in the world due to Trump and his regime, just Gaza.
Almost like your arguments are all bullshit and you’re just shills for all parties who want to tear down the Western world.
If you were eligible to vote in the US general election, and you didn’t vote for Harris in November, you helped Trump win. Simple as that.
‘just shut up about the genocide I wanted to ignore’ No. Everything trump has done so far still pales in comparison to Gaza.
Unless your only barometer for suffering is how much MSM talks about something I don’t see how you could think otherwise. Yeah ICE is evil, not tens of thousands of murdered children evil. Certainly not when we would still have ICE anyway even if Kamala won.
You don’t have to shut up about genocide to talk about other awful things happening directly because of the US.