• PugJesus@piefed.social
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      20 days ago

      Do you have any idea what subsistence farming entails?

      Do you have any idea what non subsistence farming entails?

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          19 days ago

          Subsistence farming consists of working from sunup to sundown most of the year, relying on the labor of the entire family, not just the farmer or head of household and spouse. In exchange, you experience slightly more food security than a hunter-gatherer, and considerably more labor, with intermittent famines to remind you just how close you always are to starvation and death.

          Even in modern farming, numerous labor laws (such as about overtime and child labor) don’t apply precisely because of the extreme need of labor in traditional farming operations.

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              19 days ago

              You crazy

              You only need to feed your own family, not export

              Yes, that’s the labor necessary to feed one’s own family under traditional subsistence farming.

              You think grain sows itself, weeds itself, protects itself from animals, harvests itself, gathers itself, threshes itself, and stores itself for the farmer, who can laze their days away in the warm sun?

              You think pre-modern farmers were out there fucking watching their children starving to death in a famine every decade or two because they were busy playing the fiddle instead of trying to grow and store as much food as they could, year-after-year?

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                19 days ago

                I obviously work much more than you, since we did farming and to you its near impossible work, whereas for me its not really

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                  18 days ago

                  Yes, that’s the labor necessary to feed one’s own family under traditional subsistence farming.

                  under traditional subsistence farming.

                  traditional subsistence farming.