• Airfried@piefed.social
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    11 days ago

    If it was only nukes then one would’ve been enough, no? In fact we don’t know if Japanese generals even believed nukes were real when Japan surrendered. We know that some of them simply didn’t believe it, however.

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      11 days ago

      They knew it was real. They also knew what atrocities Japan had committed and what surrendering would mean for them personally, so they spent a couple days hoping only one bomb had been made.

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        9 days ago

        That’s the story the US keeps telling us ever since to explain away their own atrocities but it isn’t backed up by any data whatsoever. It’s pure vibes so we don’t think about how insanely inhumane nuclear weapons are. There is no evidence nuclear bombings were a major factor in the decision to finally surrender but it’s a fact they were already losing hard before the bombings. It was a matter of time, not a matter of atrocities.

        Imperialist Japan needed to be defeated for a greater good. I firmly believe that. That doesn’t make nuclear bombs a necessary evil, however. It’s just evil.

        • PugJesus@piefed.socialM
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          8 days ago

          There is no evidence nuclear bombings were a major factor in the decision to finally surrender

          Japanese high command openly discussed the nuclear bombings as a key point in whether to surrender, with the ultranationalist minister of defense suggesting that Japan shouldn’t surrender at the current junction because he was convinced that the Americans had only one bomb.

          The idea that there’s no evidence that the nuclear bombings were a major factor in the decision of the Japanese government to surrender is absurd.

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      11 days ago

      It was so catastrophic and powerful that the Japanese didn’t believe that just one bomb could be so powerful. Plus, information travelled much more slowly then. That’s why the US waited a day before dropping the second.

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        11 days ago

        It was 3 days later. The government knew about the results of the first bomb and still didn’t surrender.

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          11 days ago

          Well they also interrogated POWs after the 1st and someone lied and said the US had massive supplies of them. After the 2nd dropped, they figured it was true.

          From preparing to die in a land invasion to thinking the entire island could be destroyed in a few days without even seeing an American GI