• Manjushri@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    Wait, since when does international law matter with regard to drone strikes? I could cite dozens of drone strikes by the Trump administration that clearly violated international law and they didn’t even make a ripple in any court system anywhere?

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      3 days ago

      Ukraine’s support from other countries relies heavily on them having and maintaining the moral high ground.

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        2 days ago

        Which makes them winning (sadly slowly, but still doing it) so much more impressive. They’re fighting an invasion of their country where the enemy has no moral obligations but they themselves need to be real fucking careful about what they do, even for stuff within their country. As far as I know they have only attacked Russian infrastructure and military sites with reason within Russian borders. Meanwhile Russia have bombed and shot at hospitals, apartment buildings, kindergartens, shopping malls with people standing in line to get the little produce available etc. But they’re still beating them. It’s slow and it fucking sucks so much how much they have lost, but they’re still doing it.

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        3 days ago

        You know you fucked up as a country when even 2026 war-thorn Ukraine looks at you and goes “ugh no thanks…”

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      3 days ago

      “Less blatantly unethical than the US” is not that high a bar, to be fair.

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      2 days ago

      The Trump administration, the Biden administration, the Obama administration, the Bush administration… You get the picture.

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      2 days ago

      It’s more like guidelines than laws. Ukraine breaks them at times when they double tap soldiers for example, but drone warfare makes it difficult to take pows. I’m on team Ukraine and it’s not the Tate brothers that would get an outcry from me in any case.

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        2 days ago

        First Geneva Convention says you can’t kill soldiers who are out of battle due to injuries or sickness, that much is true. I haven’t heard of these “double taps” before so I don’t know the circumstances but I wanted to point out that killing an injured soldier who have not yet decided to stop fighting is seemingly allowed.

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          2 days ago

          I’ve seen a few video where they drop a grenade on someone that’s clearly been knocked unconscious, as well as some where the person has given up. I’ve seen one where they let the person walk to the front line and give himself up as well.

          I think most drone squads operate close or behind enemy lines and from a fair distance from the actual drone. You can’t really take prisoners in those kinds of situation in most cases.