• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I get why you say that, and I don’t even disagree, but I would like to point out that it will only be partially effective.

      I live in Cleveland, so the only thing seperating us from Canada is a lake. That should give you an idea of how cold it is right now.

      Well, people are assholes, and don’t shovel their snow. We had a pretty decent snow storm last week. About 2 feet in 3 days. In response to this, nobody has shoveled their sidewalks, so now everybody walks in the streets.

      Last night I saw a guy walking on the street. Plenty of room around him. He was as far to the curb as he could be. 4 lane road (2 per direction).

      A guy came around the corner and nearly hit him. They get into a screaming match about how he should be on the sidewalk with 2 feet of snow.

      So the guy backs his car up, drives straight at him, and tried to hit the brakes before his car hit him. Well, icy road meant that his brakes didn’t mean shit. He just straight up hit and run’d him.

      Thats when I started recording with my phone. He drives off several hundred feet, pulls into a driveway, turns around, and then drives by again with his middle finger at this guy who’s still on the ground.

      This exercise would help and work for those who have empathy. You just have to remember, not everyone has empathy.

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        3 months ago

        It’s not going to be a 100% effective tool, but it doesn’t have to be. We have other means of dealing with criminals.

        In this scenario, a long prison sentence along with a permanent ban on operating vehicles seems warranted.

      • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        Sounds miserable. Around here you get 48 hours to clear the sidewalks before the city comes by and does it for you and sends you a bill.

        From what I’ve heard the bill from the city is far more expensive than hiring a service.

        It’s standard boilerplate in leases that the tenant is responsible for snow removal.

      • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 months ago

        I mean that’s kind of the point. People without empathy will only see a problem with something when they have personally experienced the problem. That is literally the point of the exercise. You put the assholes who lack empathy in the shitty situation they constantly inflict on others so they see how it feels first hand and suddenly they care. People with empathy don’t need to be taught this lesson.

  • pedz@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Cue the comments from people not subscribed to the community saying “I have nothing against cyclists but they’re in the way!11!”

    • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I feel like some kind of skit show needs to do this. Its the same puppet but with an orange safety vest and a hard hat.

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        14 days ago

        “hello bob. In front of you is a new employee who is going to operate dangerous machinery while following all protocols and keeping themselves safe. You have to get through the entire shift without telling him he’s a sissy for wearing ear protection, or you will be fired.”

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    3 months ago

    I’ve had people intentionally come close even though I’m in a bike lane.

    Even had people stopped in traffic intentionally move over to block the bike lane when they see me coming. But I have an MTB with commuter tyres, so hopping the curb around them is no issue.

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        14 days ago

        there’s something weirdly empowering about touching people’s cars. I’ve straight up slapped the rear end of cars that passed in front of me while i was using a pedestrian crossing, and it’s like getting to slap them in the face but without it being assault, or even hurting anything other than my hand.

        People feel so utterly safe and isolated in cars that having someone on the outside affect you directly is incredibly jarring and punctures the sense of invulnerability

  • als@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 months ago

    Similarly, I believe that before any law enforcement are allowed to use lethal force, they should die at least once.

  • Habahnow@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    I feel we need to include this in all driving courses, so all drivers can really be aware of how scary cars driving nearby is. Meanwhile, we also need to push for increase biking infrastructure

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    3 months ago

    I used to be a bike messenger and would be riding next to a bus, splitting the lane and a second bus would come up on your other side. It was scary and dangerous.

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    3 months ago

    I mean, I’m a bus driver, I’m well aware it sucks,I do not want to be doing this to bike riders, but they’re forced to be in the road because of no bike lanes in my area.

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      Whenever there’s no bike lane, and the sidewalk is busy/unusable, I just bike right in the middle of the lane so they need a different lane to pass. Not sharing a lane with cars, they’re crazy and will just drive off after hitting you.

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      They weren’t forced to be on the road, they’ve fought tooth and nail to put themselves on the road with you.

      I can’t tell you how many arguments I’ve gotten into because somehow cyclists feel like they belong next to the 4+ton rolling metal, instead of risking gasp having to slow down for a pedestrian on the sidewalk every once in a while.

      There are laws in some places written about cyclists facing fines if they so dare to use the sidewalk even when it is clearly the safer choice, but no, they have wheels so they must use the asphalt. I will always gladly risk the fine before my health or life. Use the sidewalk folks, learn to deal with the pedestrians.

      Edit: the replies below just make my point

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        Yes, blame cyclists instead of the people piloting 2 ton killing machines. Heaven forbid they be safe around other road users and pedestrians don’t have to fear being seriously injured by cyclists.

        For some reason it’s better to you to inconvenience cyclists who already have a longer commute to make it even longer instead of some comfy driver who can stop and start with nary any physical input.

        And no, the safest choice is to redesign our society for PEOPLE and that means roadways which accommodate all vehicles and heavy fines and actual punishment for drivers who put everyone in danger.

      • Soulg@ani.social
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        3 months ago

        I don’t know what areas you’re talking about, but where I live yes they are forced to be because there are no bike lanes or side walks for them to be on. It is only the road

  • That is great idea, but it could be improved if the bicycle was a real bicycle & was riding & the bus rode by, way too close.

    I remember attending an event for the county employees & public about the dangerous situation for bicyclist, when a Fire Department Fire Truck driver said she never see bicyclist, even if they were there or not. Of course this is M-Dade County, of South Florida, & at the end they were blaming the young kids never properly learning how to ride bicyclist.

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      3 months ago

      I think the reason it’s done on an exercise bike is to be able to do it in a controlled and safe environment. The purpose is to teach the drivers, not potentially run them over.

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      I think the reason it’s done on an exercise bike is to be able to do it in a controlled and safe environment. The purpose is to teach the drivers, not potentially run them over.

        • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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          3 months ago

          If you cycle regularly though, you’re probably more prepared to deal with the push and pulls from the air of a large vehicle passing (which they can still surely feel, even if they don’t have to deal with maintaining their balance) and better at maintaining your line. Someone who just never cycles would probably have a lot harder time dealing with both of those so the bus would need to pass further away to make it equivalent, but then you wouldn’t really get that effect of having a wall right next to them. Either way is missing part of the experience.

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    3 months ago

    Need to get city planners on that bike, not bus drivers. That worker isn’t the reason for the lack of proper infrastructure.