cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/46449191

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday Ukraine should agree a deal to end the war with Russia because “Russia is a very big power, and they’re not”

  • Null User Object@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I feel like Ukraine has already made a perfectly reasonable offer. “GTFO of our country and then we’ll stop exploding your stuff.” Russia needs to take that deal.

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      8 months ago

      This sounds cool and morally right but it is not grounded in reality.

      Ukraine needs a ceasefire much much more than Russia. Also, Russia has won a lot of land and technically they have won (at a big cost). Ukraine is in no position to make demands.

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          8 months ago

          How? What cards do they hold? What can they give in exchange for their land?

          For example, Russia can stop the “special operation” if Ukraine gives them the land they want.

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            8 months ago

            Unfortunately, you and I both know that even if Ukraine were to agree to cede some land to Russia, there’s nothing stopping Putin from continuing to sow instability in Ukraine or from still trying to take more of their land. In fact, he has a demonstrated track record of lying about this.

            • npdean@lemmy.today
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              8 months ago

              True. Trump, Putin, Xi are not to be trusted but there has to be an end to the war. Ukraine cannot win it, it is clear since day one. There has to be some sort of diplomatic solution once there is a ceasefire.

              People in the comments (and West, in general) don’t understand how terrible war is. They think them supporting Ukraine to prolong the inevitable is a good thing. They are killing thousands of people and the outcome is unlikely to change. So many deaths in vain.

              A very stupid and naïve argument people make is Putin should just leave Ukraine and the war will be over. Why would he give up a winning game? It is simple solution to a very complex problem, and simple solutions are rarely correct solutions.