one of the world most preeminent fascists (Putin)?
The propaganda blitz surrounding the Ukraine war puts that of the Iraq war to absolute shame. Look at how fucking deranged people STILL are about this.
Putin is a fascist . It has nothing to do with Ukraine. I thought this 20 years ago too because he is a textbook fascist i.e. there is no separation of private/corporate enterprise and the state, he’s an authoritarian nationalist who installed a single‑party state, he brutally suppresses dissent and is overtly militaristic. He might pine for Soviet times but in reality he is just in it for himself. Another pathetic ego maniac of which we have many all over the world these days.
there is no separation of private/corporate enterprise and the state
This is nonsensical. There’s no such thing as an industrialized society with a clear separation between private enterprise and the state. The state is the backbone of any industrial economy and anyone who knows shit about leftism knows that all capitalist countries are bourgeois dictatorships.
he’s an authoritarian nationalist
This description applies to every head of state. There’s no such thing as a “non-authoritarian” nation-state. Furthermore, Russia has substationally stronger minority rights than the west (where the idea of giving minority rights will get you accused of being racist).
he brutally suppresses dissent and is overtly militaristic
Is this your first year paying attention to politics?
You’re missing the point. Putin is a bourgeois rat (as I like to call him) but supporting Russia is still harm reduction because Russia’s enemies are the imperialists. Literally everyone is better than the imperialists. The imperialists are the bottom of the barrel.
Putin? He’s just a typical liberal* in comparison.
Putin is also an imperialist. I don’t see it as harm reduction so much as harm prolongation. We need better ideas, we need to communicate them and we need to stand behind them. As soon as you devolve into lesser evil tribalism you’ve destroyed any chance of meaningful change.
Russia is not an imperialist country. Not only does it lack control over the world financial system, but it also is not extracting surplus value from the world.
Only a handful of countries even have the ability to enact imperialist surplus extract. It is American/European/Japanese firms which hold monopoly positions. It is America who gets to export its government debt in the form of US T-bonds that everyone is forced to buy. It is the US/EU which can create any protectionist trade policy they want while forcing structural adjustment programs onto the third world (aka forcing 3rd world countries to sell off public assets to US/EU capital in exchange for hard currency).
A country’s currency is the symbol and source of its imperial power. The countries with “hard currencies” are the imperialists who can dictate the economy of the world and leech off it. Meanwhile Russia’s currency becomes worthless in the global market by a simple sanction, and the imperialists steal 300 billion USD foreign reserves of Russia.
The idea of modern Russia being an imperialist power is just wrong and not supported by facts. Their class position is as imperialist as my class position is bourgeois*.
It would be if it could be. It tries in every arena but it’s just too weak to succeed. I don’t really see the point of swapping one piece of shit for another.
ETA: Before I begin my day, I will say, Russia has no hegemony in production and doesn’t seem to be seeking it. The Communist Party isn’t in control, and they aren’t banned, either. In fact, they are active in government and the community, to the best of my understanding. Neither does Russia seek financial or territorial hegemony.
Ukraine is Western agitated, Western financed, doing Western bidding, that is, seeking to surround Russia with hostile forces that can weaken Russia, with an ultimate goal of making them another US vassal state. The Russian people are naturally opposed to this plan, and while Putin is a liberal, he’s certainly not ready to sell out his public to save himself.
Oh okay so after a hypothetical conflict you believe that’s how things would settle therefore you get to say the current situation has the attributes of your forecasting.
I didn’t know there was a whole convoluted series of logical steps you were withholding from us.
It’s good that we don’t get bogged down with how things actually are. The function of politics is not affected there being multiple parties at all so it’s important to angrily shout down anyone who mentions them. The ultimate power holding single person government keeps them around for fun.
It always takes you guys 0.05 seconds to start acting like a weird gross freak towards people who don’t share your insane nationalist worldview. Is it any wonder liberalism as an ideology is dying? You people are unlikeable creeps.
The propaganda blitz surrounding the Ukraine war puts that of the Iraq war to absolute shame. Look at how fucking deranged people STILL are about this.
Putin is a fascist . It has nothing to do with Ukraine. I thought this 20 years ago too because he is a textbook fascist i.e. there is no separation of private/corporate enterprise and the state, he’s an authoritarian nationalist who installed a single‑party state, he brutally suppresses dissent and is overtly militaristic. He might pine for Soviet times but in reality he is just in it for himself. Another pathetic ego maniac of which we have many all over the world these days.
This is nonsensical. There’s no such thing as an industrialized society with a clear separation between private enterprise and the state. The state is the backbone of any industrial economy and anyone who knows shit about leftism knows that all capitalist countries are bourgeois dictatorships.
This description applies to every head of state. There’s no such thing as a “non-authoritarian” nation-state. Furthermore, Russia has substationally stronger minority rights than the west (where the idea of giving minority rights will get you accused of being racist).
Is this your first year paying attention to politics?
You’re not refuting any points I made though. Everything you and I have said is true.
You’re missing the point. Putin is a bourgeois rat (as I like to call him) but supporting Russia is still harm reduction because Russia’s enemies are the imperialists. Literally everyone is better than the imperialists. The imperialists are the bottom of the barrel.
Putin? He’s just a typical liberal* in comparison.
*liberal in the non-prejorative ideological sense
Putin is also an imperialist. I don’t see it as harm reduction so much as harm prolongation. We need better ideas, we need to communicate them and we need to stand behind them. As soon as you devolve into lesser evil tribalism you’ve destroyed any chance of meaningful change.
Russia is not an imperialist country. Not only does it lack control over the world financial system, but it also is not extracting surplus value from the world.
Only a handful of countries even have the ability to enact imperialist surplus extract. It is American/European/Japanese firms which hold monopoly positions. It is America who gets to export its government debt in the form of US T-bonds that everyone is forced to buy. It is the US/EU which can create any protectionist trade policy they want while forcing structural adjustment programs onto the third world (aka forcing 3rd world countries to sell off public assets to US/EU capital in exchange for hard currency).
A country’s currency is the symbol and source of its imperial power. The countries with “hard currencies” are the imperialists who can dictate the economy of the world and leech off it. Meanwhile Russia’s currency becomes worthless in the global market by a simple sanction, and the imperialists steal 300 billion USD foreign reserves of Russia.
The idea of modern Russia being an imperialist power is just wrong and not supported by facts. Their class position is as imperialist as my class position is bourgeois*.
*for the record I don’t own businesses or land.
It would be if it could be. It tries in every arena but it’s just too weak to succeed. I don’t really see the point of swapping one piece of shit for another.
There’s a difference between is and would be, and the difference is that what presently exists is of key importance.
This is just fan fiction.
When has Russia tried to take over the global economic system? What attempts has it made?
What does this mean? Since when is Russia taking over the governance of Europe even a remote possibility?
So all of the sudden Russia isnt imperialist?
Workers are the state > workers own the means of production > fascism 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Workers own the state in modern Russia? lol
Good catch. 😂
ETA: Before I begin my day, I will say, Russia has no hegemony in production and doesn’t seem to be seeking it. The Communist Party isn’t in control, and they aren’t banned, either. In fact, they are active in government and the community, to the best of my understanding. Neither does Russia seek financial or territorial hegemony.
Ukraine is Western agitated, Western financed, doing Western bidding, that is, seeking to surround Russia with hostile forces that can weaken Russia, with an ultimate goal of making them another US vassal state. The Russian people are naturally opposed to this plan, and while Putin is a liberal, he’s certainly not ready to sell out his public to save himself.
Russia isn’t a single party state. Stop Just Saying Shit™
Of course… I totally forgot about all the other parties that have been in power since the fall of the USSR. My bad
I wish I could be as free as you and just change what words mean any time you get called out for lying with them
We all know the other parties are only allowed exist as long as they don’t threaten daddy Putin. Don’t be so gullible
Oh okay so after a hypothetical conflict you believe that’s how things would settle therefore you get to say the current situation has the attributes of your forecasting.
I didn’t know there was a whole convoluted series of logical steps you were withholding from us.
It’s good that we don’t get bogged down with how things actually are. The function of politics is not affected there being multiple parties at all so it’s important to angrily shout down anyone who mentions them. The ultimate power holding single person government keeps them around for fun.
It always takes you guys 0.05 seconds to start acting like a weird gross freak towards people who don’t share your insane nationalist worldview. Is it any wonder liberalism as an ideology is dying? You people are unlikeable creeps.
I’m about as far from nationalist as you can get unlike Putin and Trump. You guys have one insult and you use it for everything lol
“Erm akshually I’m a secret third thing” yeah a weird fetishistic liberal, what a surprise lmao
Is Japan a one- party state?