You wouldn’t think of a European community of being so insanely pro Russia, yet on every single post mentioning Russia, any negative comments about Russia or their government will get downvoted to hell, some people get banned. I would not be surprised if I am banned or downvoted for posting this. People who are not just blatantly spamming Kremlin propaganda, please say why you are so pro Russia, to someone confused.


did you have that one prepared or are you chatgpting me.
Prepared. I talk about Marxism-Leninism a lot, and as such have a big backlog of effort-comments I can draw from. I have one about the PRC as well:
PRC general effortpost
In China, the backbone of the economy is in the public sector, in huge State Owned Enterprises. The large firms and key industries in China are overwhelmingly publicly owned, while private ownership is relegated to small industry and highly competitive industries. As for working hours, the average is between 40 and 48 hours, usually hovering around 44-46. 996 is illegal, was largely in big tech firms, and is overall rare.
The PRC is a socialist state, not a state capitalist state like the Republic of Korea, US Empire, or Singapore. China being socialist has nothing to do with the name of the party in control, and everything to do with the mode of production and distribution in China. Rather than a neoliberal paradise, it’s closer to a nightmare for neoliberals. This editorial from The Guardian explains it quite well, actually:
How then, does China’s economy work? Public ownership is the principal aspect of China’s economy. This means that public ownership governs the large firms and key industries, and is what is rising in China, as private ownership is kept to small and medium non-essential industries. No system is static, meaning identifying the nature of a system depends on identifying what is rising and what is dying away. Cpitalists are held on a tight leash, and are prevented from gaining political power as a class. The reason private ownership is allowed at all is because China has very uneven development due to their rapid industrialization, and private ownership does help with filling in gaps left by the primary aspects of the economy like SOEs.
The form of democracy and the mode of production in China ensures that there is a connection between the people and the state. Policies like the mass line are in place to ensure this direct connection remains. This is why over 90% of the Chinese population supports the government, and why they have such strong perceptions around democracy:
The Chinese political system is based on whole-process people’s democracy, a form of consultative democracy. The local government is directly elected, and then these governments elect people to higher rungs, meaning any candidate at the top level must have worked their way up from the bottom and directly proved themselves. Combining this consultative, ground-up democracy with top-down economic planning is the key to China’s success.
I highly recommend Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Socialist democracy has been imperfect, but has gone through a number of changes and adaptations over the years as we’ve learned more from testing theory to practice. Boer goes over the history behind socialist democracy in this textbook.
China does have billionaires, as you might then protest. China is in the developing stages of socialism. Between capitalism, which is characterized by private ownership being the principal aspect of the economy and the capitalists in control of the state, and communism, characterized by full collectivization of production and distribution devoid of classes and the state, run along the lines of a common plan, is socialism, where public ownership is principle and the working classes in control. China in particular is working its way out of the initial stages of socialism:
The reason China has billionaires is because China has private property, and the reason it has private property is because of 2 major factors: the world economy is still dominated by the US empire, and because you cannot simply abolish private property at the stroke of a pen. China tried that already. The Gang of Four tried to dogmatically force a publicly owned and planned economy when the infrastructure best suited to that hadn’t been laid out by markets, and as a consequence growth was positive but highly unstable.
Why does it matter that the US Empire controls the world economy? Because as capitalism monopolizes, it is compelled to expand outward in order to fight falling rates of profit by raising absolute profits. The merging of bank and industrial capital into finance capital leads to export of capital, ie outsourcing. This process allows super-exploitation for super-profits, and is known as imperialism.
In the People’s Republic of China, under Mao and later the Gang of Four, growth was overall positive but was unstable. The centrally planned economy had brought great benefits in many areas, but because the productive forces themselves were underdeveloped, economic growth wasn’t steady. There began to be discussion and division in the party, until Deng Xiapoing’s faction pushing for Reform and Opening Up won out, and growth was stabilized.
Deng’s plan was to introduce market reforms, localized around Special Economic Zones, while maintaining full control over the principle aspects of the economy. Limited private capital would be introduced, especially by luring in foreign investors, such as the US, pivoting from more isolationist positions into one fully immersed in the global marketplace. As the small and medium firms grow into large firms, the state exerts more control and subsumes them more into the public sector. This was a gamble, but unlike what happened to the USSR, this was done in a controlled manner that ended up not undermining the socialist system overall.
To dogmatically collectivize the entire economy would actually be a move undesirable by Marxist standards. Certain economies like the DPRK and USSR have had to do so in order to develop military deterrence, China managed to negotiate itself into the global economy and take advantage of the utility of markets in socializing the small industries, making them ripe for central planning.
I’m a big 'ol commie. Like you, I’m also woke and colonial history-pilled, I just try to use that to help persuade people towards what I believe is the correct political line for certifying a better future.
fair. thanks for engaging.
No problem!
You are not the first person having a misguided opinion on the Soviet Union.
Shocker, I know. But it’s not necessarily your fault, obviously the bourgeoisie, who controls most of the media you have access to, makes sure to propagate those beliefs, and not only in the obvious and crude ways.
But seriously, Cowbee is one of the most prolific posters here, he has those posts ready on a couple different subjects.
Of course a piefed bot immediately rejects evidence
prepared. seen it many times
I’ll work on new material I promise 🫠
I don’t want people bored of my commenting
I don’t even read it anymore, I already know what’s in it.
Sorry… I am serious though, I do plan on making new material. I especially need to update the DPRK one considering their democratic model has made some fairly major changes in the last 2 years I was unaware of until recently, such as the introduction of multi-candidate primaries and the dissolution of the Democratic Front that helped democratically select candidates for the single-candidate approval vote. They are undergoing more changes and adjustments, especially since they don’t forsee unification in the short or medium run any longer.
Hope I haven’t been boring, I know you check on my comments from time to time and I try to be useful in general. If people don’t even read my comments anymore then even if it saves me time it isn’t worth it.
Of course I am a special case. I have already read it multiple times, and therefore don’t find the need to again.
Yea, I understand! I’ll still use it from time to time but I’ll try to be less reliant on my past arguments. I’ve been trying to be as simple and clear as possible lately.
Hope you’ve been doing well, by the way!
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Very valid criticisms! That’s why I am trying to be more direct lately, I lean too heavily on my older comments and they can be disorienting to reference if not fully applicable. Looks like I need to do more work in this area and be better. Thank you! Critique helps us grow.
And it’s a good thing that you’re doing better, I haven’t heard much from you lately and was hoping there wasn’t something wrong going on. Not that you owe me a status report or anything, I just noticed that you weren’t around as much.