Nope, but direct moralizing and public shaming doesn’t work well to change behavior when you’re doing it to an anonymous person (it’s still not great irl, but at least there’s accountability involved).
How many vegans do you know who went vegan after someone online said “so rape’s okay when the victim’s a cow?” (I just used that as a comparison because it’s a philosophy predicated upon changing personal consumption to fit morals, to be clear. Also, I looked, but there’s not yet a great comprehensive study on what exactly made people go vegan yet, but they’re collecting data now, if anyone wants to participate.)
Its more like an exasperation. It doesn’t matter what I say here really. But I have to acknowledge it.
It’s just a sign of the times. Here you have a sport that nearly anyone can play. For a lot of people locally it can bring community together, gives people something to do and rally behind.
But the “circus” part of my statement is so on the nose: A non profit “charity” leveraging pay to play tactics to funnel money and power around an elite group of billionaires and corporations. Corruption, bribery, and even racism all are part of the politics of this sport. The whole reason why it is mentioned here. A way for Trump to call out to his maga base by showing them who is in charge, he can even reign in Fifa. Of course we get the obligatory statement from FIFA: “Football must never become a playground for political power.”, which is just more nonsense, because that is all it is.
Anyways, I am sure everyone knows that, but why support it? Cheering on the games, watching them, going to them, only continues to enrich the commercial interests who then use that money to leverage political gain and more power.
I just don’t get it: people are willing to make their lives worse and literally pay for that privilege, what else can I say?
People are generally willing to make their lives a little worse for entertainment, it’s a quirk of the species. Yes, it’s a distraction, but people need distractions.
If people stay laser focused on the awful things going on, they won’t be more empathetic and able to help, they’ll feel more helpless. It’s a good thing to be informed, but only to a point.
Its not a little worse. It is a LOT worse. Its not a distraction, its a freaking denial. Its like a late stage alcoholic that figures drinking is fine because it makes them feel a little better.
There are a million things to do that are distractions, this is no excuse. This is like watching your house on fire and helping pour on the petrol, because for a while, that is fun.
People do that, all the time. At least there’s a significant effect from alcohol, but go to any cancer treatment center and see if the ashtray outside is empty. It’s not.
But no, I don’t really see how an American who can afford tickets is blowing up their life by doing so. Someone’s life, sure. And that matters a lot, but they probably also buy clothing and shoes, so they’re most likely already benefiting from slavery. There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism.
That’s not a reason that people should use to just do what they want, but people also don’t deserve abuse for not boycotting the things you boycott (nor will it help convert them)
I made my case, I stand by it. All the grift and power gained by these events is just another one on the pile, and if only hurt the individual I wouldn’t care.
No, they do not get a pass for contributing to making everything worse, in a huge way, when they could simply not.
Do you buy clothes from stores? Should I go around commenting under all of your posts that you’re a slaver? That would rightfully be considered abuse.
Getting frustrations out by complaining that others don’t follow the same boycotts you do doesn’t make you wrong, just ineffective and unpleasant. But why do that? If you don’t start off so angry, you can often talk people around.
There are thousands of important things for people to pay attention to, not everyone gets every bit of news. First explaining the issue calmly and getting them to talk about it with you will be a much better strategy across the board than just going “so you like slaves, eh?”
What’s the huge way that $5-10k in FIFA’s pocket makes everything worse? It contributes a very small amount to their bottom line, which is obviously not good, but how efficient does an organization have to be for so little money to go far enough to affect everything? That’s impressive.
I already stated that it’s not a pass, should we just keep affirming it to each other?
Given that fifa is a non profit, its not the money going to them. It’s the contracts, backroom deals, corporate favors, government favors, etc. Look into the whole scheme and its bonkers how far a reach a non profit has, how many billionaires are involved in various ways, governments as well. Its a front to a huge exchange of weath and influence disguised as a charity.
If you want to complain and call me a slaver because I buy clothes feel free, I don’t care. If me and a thousand friends got together to funnel money into a business that did that “for fun” yeah maybe I would deserve it.
So contributing to the problem is ok as long as its fun. Got it.
Nope, but direct moralizing and public shaming doesn’t work well to change behavior when you’re doing it to an anonymous person (it’s still not great irl, but at least there’s accountability involved).
How many vegans do you know who went vegan after someone online said “so rape’s okay when the victim’s a cow?” (I just used that as a comparison because it’s a philosophy predicated upon changing personal consumption to fit morals, to be clear. Also, I looked, but there’s not yet a great comprehensive study on what exactly made people go vegan yet, but they’re collecting data now, if anyone wants to participate.)
Its more like an exasperation. It doesn’t matter what I say here really. But I have to acknowledge it.
It’s just a sign of the times. Here you have a sport that nearly anyone can play. For a lot of people locally it can bring community together, gives people something to do and rally behind.
But the “circus” part of my statement is so on the nose: A non profit “charity” leveraging pay to play tactics to funnel money and power around an elite group of billionaires and corporations. Corruption, bribery, and even racism all are part of the politics of this sport. The whole reason why it is mentioned here. A way for Trump to call out to his maga base by showing them who is in charge, he can even reign in Fifa. Of course we get the obligatory statement from FIFA: “Football must never become a playground for political power.”, which is just more nonsense, because that is all it is.
Anyways, I am sure everyone knows that, but why support it? Cheering on the games, watching them, going to them, only continues to enrich the commercial interests who then use that money to leverage political gain and more power.
I just don’t get it: people are willing to make their lives worse and literally pay for that privilege, what else can I say?
People are generally willing to make their lives a little worse for entertainment, it’s a quirk of the species. Yes, it’s a distraction, but people need distractions.
If people stay laser focused on the awful things going on, they won’t be more empathetic and able to help, they’ll feel more helpless. It’s a good thing to be informed, but only to a point.
Its not a little worse. It is a LOT worse. Its not a distraction, its a freaking denial. Its like a late stage alcoholic that figures drinking is fine because it makes them feel a little better.
There are a million things to do that are distractions, this is no excuse. This is like watching your house on fire and helping pour on the petrol, because for a while, that is fun.
People do that, all the time. At least there’s a significant effect from alcohol, but go to any cancer treatment center and see if the ashtray outside is empty. It’s not.
But no, I don’t really see how an American who can afford tickets is blowing up their life by doing so. Someone’s life, sure. And that matters a lot, but they probably also buy clothing and shoes, so they’re most likely already benefiting from slavery. There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism.
That’s not a reason that people should use to just do what they want, but people also don’t deserve abuse for not boycotting the things you boycott (nor will it help convert them)
Abuse? Lol abuse?
Really?
I made my case, I stand by it. All the grift and power gained by these events is just another one on the pile, and if only hurt the individual I wouldn’t care.
No, they do not get a pass for contributing to making everything worse, in a huge way, when they could simply not.
Do you buy clothes from stores? Should I go around commenting under all of your posts that you’re a slaver? That would rightfully be considered abuse.
Getting frustrations out by complaining that others don’t follow the same boycotts you do doesn’t make you wrong, just ineffective and unpleasant. But why do that? If you don’t start off so angry, you can often talk people around.
There are thousands of important things for people to pay attention to, not everyone gets every bit of news. First explaining the issue calmly and getting them to talk about it with you will be a much better strategy across the board than just going “so you like slaves, eh?”
What’s the huge way that $5-10k in FIFA’s pocket makes everything worse? It contributes a very small amount to their bottom line, which is obviously not good, but how efficient does an organization have to be for so little money to go far enough to affect everything? That’s impressive.
I already stated that it’s not a pass, should we just keep affirming it to each other?
Given that fifa is a non profit, its not the money going to them. It’s the contracts, backroom deals, corporate favors, government favors, etc. Look into the whole scheme and its bonkers how far a reach a non profit has, how many billionaires are involved in various ways, governments as well. Its a front to a huge exchange of weath and influence disguised as a charity.
If you want to complain and call me a slaver because I buy clothes feel free, I don’t care. If me and a thousand friends got together to funnel money into a business that did that “for fun” yeah maybe I would deserve it.