It does suck, that’s why I think we should first reach out with reason instead of accusations. People don’t respond well to accusations and guilt makes people make worse decisions.
Yeah, it’s true. I wouldn’t join a football discussion and just start swaggering around with accusation. It’s a comment I made here, because it was a bit more appropriate.
Since we are talking about it:
In the US, the world cup was used to get 365 million dollars spent on permanent surveillance and facial recognition devices installed. The four main vendors planned on this all along, using AI and leaving it up. Nobody has disclosed what they are going to do with the data, the fans willingly gave up facial recognition for ID which will continue at major arenas because now it is in place.
Mexico and Canada are also doing this. The list of upcoming hosts are planning on doing this. They are using the World Cup as a “global showcase” to normalize battlefield-tested surveillance in civilian spaces.
FIFA is the platform to get global AI surveillance into place, to get contracts to large corporations, and to monitor and build databaes of citizens. The best part? It’s almost always the same corporations, how easy it is to go global!
The amount of waved reviews is staggering. Just roll it out now worry about consequences later.
The World Cup does not create the surveillance state — but it has become one of the most efficient mechanisms for funding, deploying, legitimizing, and permanently embedding it across the globe, one tournament at a time.
Does that help explain why I am a little bit irritated about this subject?
That’s great information to have, thank you. I was actually already boycotting fifa, but didn’t realize that’s where the money was going.
I know it’s exhausting, but leading with something like that instead of an accusation would be way more effective. If you can copy/paste it, or make a post about it somewhere so others can share it as well, it might be easier.
I’m not trying to put more emotional labor on people who are already drained by the subject, but it’s just the reality of what’s effective for actually changing people’s minds.
If I want to actually make someone think about changing their eating habits, I can’t just say it’s fucked up to enslave animals, I have to pull up research about, for example, what happens to make chicks at egg laying facilities and read through it to make sure it’s valid, before posting information the other person likely didn’t know that might plant a seed for later. It sucks, I’ve gotten more sensitized to animal cruelty since I went vegan (I know, I know, “they’ll tell you,” but I don’t know what better angle to approach this from), but the other way just alienates people.
The word Vegan has connotations apparently for people, but hopefully respect for animal life is a good talking point to open the dialog about what you believe in.
There is a whole lot of benefits for the world if you can get people to even move the needle to a more plant based diet.
No, the people aren’t the villians. The fans aren’t the villains, they just support it. If anything they too are the victims.
It sucks.
It does suck, that’s why I think we should first reach out with reason instead of accusations. People don’t respond well to accusations and guilt makes people make worse decisions.
Yeah, it’s true. I wouldn’t join a football discussion and just start swaggering around with accusation. It’s a comment I made here, because it was a bit more appropriate.
Since we are talking about it:
In the US, the world cup was used to get 365 million dollars spent on permanent surveillance and facial recognition devices installed. The four main vendors planned on this all along, using AI and leaving it up. Nobody has disclosed what they are going to do with the data, the fans willingly gave up facial recognition for ID which will continue at major arenas because now it is in place.
Mexico and Canada are also doing this. The list of upcoming hosts are planning on doing this. They are using the World Cup as a “global showcase” to normalize battlefield-tested surveillance in civilian spaces.
FIFA is the platform to get global AI surveillance into place, to get contracts to large corporations, and to monitor and build databaes of citizens. The best part? It’s almost always the same corporations, how easy it is to go global!
The amount of waved reviews is staggering. Just roll it out now worry about consequences later.
The World Cup does not create the surveillance state — but it has become one of the most efficient mechanisms for funding, deploying, legitimizing, and permanently embedding it across the globe, one tournament at a time.
Does that help explain why I am a little bit irritated about this subject?
That’s great information to have, thank you. I was actually already boycotting fifa, but didn’t realize that’s where the money was going.
I know it’s exhausting, but leading with something like that instead of an accusation would be way more effective. If you can copy/paste it, or make a post about it somewhere so others can share it as well, it might be easier.
I’m not trying to put more emotional labor on people who are already drained by the subject, but it’s just the reality of what’s effective for actually changing people’s minds.
If I want to actually make someone think about changing their eating habits, I can’t just say it’s fucked up to enslave animals, I have to pull up research about, for example, what happens to make chicks at egg laying facilities and read through it to make sure it’s valid, before posting information the other person likely didn’t know that might plant a seed for later. It sucks, I’ve gotten more sensitized to animal cruelty since I went vegan (I know, I know, “they’ll tell you,” but I don’t know what better angle to approach this from), but the other way just alienates people.
Yes, I agree.
The word Vegan has connotations apparently for people, but hopefully respect for animal life is a good talking point to open the dialog about what you believe in.
There is a whole lot of benefits for the world if you can get people to even move the needle to a more plant based diet.