Well it isn’t to “Shill for data centers” but I suspect you knew that already. Honestly, nobody is reading this anymore unless it’s their job, so this is just a conversation between us. I get fed up with these echo chambers. They’re so pointless since everyone already agrees with each other and sensible people just stay away anyway, but it’s still annoying that so few people challenge these talking points. “Data center bad”, “Won’t someone think of the water?!”, “AI is secretly a plan to enslave us all” etc.
My intent was to challenge these things and see who would respond genuinely and who would just stick to the script. It’s been quite interesting. Also, honestly it felt good not to be intimidated or spun out in a thread full of sarcasm, ridicule, ad hominem attacks etc.
As for the downvotes, oh well… Most of the rest of my time here is generally positive. Sometimes though it feels good to stand up and say what I think, even if it costs some fake internet points lol
The thing is that I’m in Toronto—the same city that Kevin O’Leary’s from—and while my view of him was never great, it took a deep dive in 2024 when IIUC he agreed that Canada should join the US, and now he’s going on about critics of data centers being fronts for the Chinese (even though I’m sure he’s dealt with the Chinese in preference to North American businesses at times).
Further, as one who for the most part doesn’t agree with “intellectual property” I’m kind of with the Chinese on this one as I don’t consider the “theft” of IP a big problem, and resent the US government insisting that we (Canada) should tighten up (I think we should go far in the opposite direction);
and while I’m anti-CPC, I tire of the Sinophobia, such as O’Leary’s use of it, so when you started to sound like him, I, and probably others here, thought, “Oh no, here we go again.”
(btw, I didn’t downvote you: I rarely downvote people)
What does responding genuinely mean to you? Is it so hard to believe that people, especially those on here, hate data centers? To me it seems like your intent was just to confirm your view that the place is an echo chamber. Hearing “yeah it’s all Chinese bots everything is actually great 👍” is what you wanted to find?
Why is it so hard for you to believe there could be another take to the comfortable one you hold? You should question everything all the time. How much personal research have you done yourself into, for example, what other industries in the US use massive amounts of water. The answer may surprise you. Anyway, this discussion is so over that cleaning services are vacuuming and tidying away the folding chairs. I’m off before they cut the power and lock the doors lol
Well it isn’t to “Shill for data centers” but I suspect you knew that already. Honestly, nobody is reading this anymore unless it’s their job, so this is just a conversation between us. I get fed up with these echo chambers. They’re so pointless since everyone already agrees with each other and sensible people just stay away anyway, but it’s still annoying that so few people challenge these talking points. “Data center bad”, “Won’t someone think of the water?!”, “AI is secretly a plan to enslave us all” etc.
My intent was to challenge these things and see who would respond genuinely and who would just stick to the script. It’s been quite interesting. Also, honestly it felt good not to be intimidated or spun out in a thread full of sarcasm, ridicule, ad hominem attacks etc.
As for the downvotes, oh well… Most of the rest of my time here is generally positive. Sometimes though it feels good to stand up and say what I think, even if it costs some fake internet points lol
Okay.
The thing is that I’m in Toronto—the same city that Kevin O’Leary’s from—and while my view of him was never great, it took a deep dive in 2024 when IIUC he agreed that Canada should join the US, and now he’s going on about critics of data centers being fronts for the Chinese (even though I’m sure he’s dealt with the Chinese in preference to North American businesses at times).
Further, as one who for the most part doesn’t agree with “intellectual property” I’m kind of with the Chinese on this one as I don’t consider the “theft” of IP a big problem, and resent the US government insisting that we (Canada) should tighten up (I think we should go far in the opposite direction);
and while I’m anti-CPC, I tire of the Sinophobia, such as O’Leary’s use of it, so when you started to sound like him, I, and probably others here, thought, “Oh no, here we go again.”
(btw, I didn’t downvote you: I rarely downvote people)
What does responding genuinely mean to you? Is it so hard to believe that people, especially those on here, hate data centers? To me it seems like your intent was just to confirm your view that the place is an echo chamber. Hearing “yeah it’s all Chinese bots everything is actually great 👍” is what you wanted to find?
I… Did you really type that sentence?
Why is it so hard for you to believe there could be another take to the comfortable one you hold? You should question everything all the time. How much personal research have you done yourself into, for example, what other industries in the US use massive amounts of water. The answer may surprise you. Anyway, this discussion is so over that cleaning services are vacuuming and tidying away the folding chairs. I’m off before they cut the power and lock the doors lol