I’m sure I’ve seen this discussion on lemmy at some point before. Basically there are different terms for writing and not all countries/regions use them to mean the same thing. Some people say “joined up letters” to mean cursive, some people use it to mean connecting what are basically printed letters, and others have never heard that phrase and think that casually connecting some letters is still printing because it’s not “formal” cursive.
For example, I learned this system of cursive and although I connect some letters when writing these days (although not all of them) and some of the letters are similar to printing, I definitely would never write (eg) a capital G or I like that anymore, or put 3 humps in my m and 2 in my n. I only heard “joined up writing” much more recently and I thought it would look like this or this, which is a lot closer to how I write than a cursive style.
Yeah several of those letters seem pretty inefficient. I stopped using cursive as soon as the teachers didn’t care (I think 4th grade?), but I wonder if we’d been taught a better system if I would’ve kept at it. My handwriting always was kind of a mess though.
Yeah it was particularly frustrating being taught how to write in cursive and how to touch type in the same school year… especially when no one could give me a straight answer as to why I had to keep banging my head against the handwriting of all kinds when it was clear I could do the work just fine if i could just fucking type the thing.
aha ! Ok I see. So the person above uses small print letters the same way they appear on a computer screen? wouldn’t this be super inconvenient and slow?
how come? are you handicapped? me, I’ve got a tendon problem in my wrist and I can’t hold a mouse for very long without experiencing intense pain. But writing is fine
It is an attention/cognitive issue. Writing by hand period feels like trying to think and process through molasses and becomes unbearable almost instantly.
If you wanna do a lot of handwriting, cursive comes out on top - it’s faster and less straining for your hand because you can use continuous motion. (and this comes from someone who had cramps in his hand in school because of the amount of writing - i can’t even imagine having to write so much again while NOT using cursive).
At no point did I advocate for anything other than my opinion that cursive is a stupid, bullshit ass writing method. And that telling me about the benefits of it is kind of like telling a wheelchair user the benefits of stairs. If we’re going with that analogy.
fuck cursive, bullshit ass writing method.
A Day Later: Some ableist ass fuckin discourse goin’ on here now…
I had to look this up…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursive
Wikipedia mentions “in contrast to block letters”, which seems to be essentially all caps. Is that how you usually write? in all caps?
You can write lower case block letters. They look like most of the ones I’m typing now.
👍🏼 Indeed. I was going by this passage from the Wikipedia article
But at this point why not join the letters then? it seems like an unnecessary hurdle
I’m sure I’ve seen this discussion on lemmy at some point before. Basically there are different terms for writing and not all countries/regions use them to mean the same thing. Some people say “joined up letters” to mean cursive, some people use it to mean connecting what are basically printed letters, and others have never heard that phrase and think that casually connecting some letters is still printing because it’s not “formal” cursive.
For example, I learned this system of cursive and although I connect some letters when writing these days (although not all of them) and some of the letters are similar to printing, I definitely would never write (eg) a capital G or I like that anymore, or put 3 humps in my m and 2 in my n. I only heard “joined up writing” much more recently and I thought it would look like this or this, which is a lot closer to how I write than a cursive style.
the system of cursive letters you linked is what im referring to as a “bullshit ass writing system”.
Yeah several of those letters seem pretty inefficient. I stopped using cursive as soon as the teachers didn’t care (I think 4th grade?), but I wonder if we’d been taught a better system if I would’ve kept at it. My handwriting always was kind of a mess though.
Yeah it was particularly frustrating being taught how to write in cursive and how to touch type in the same school year… especially when no one could give me a straight answer as to why I had to keep banging my head against the handwriting of all kinds when it was clear I could do the work just fine if i could just fucking type the thing.
Block letters aren’t all caps. You’re probably reading this in block letters
aha ! Ok I see. So the person above uses small print letters the same way they appear on a computer screen? wouldn’t this be super inconvenient and slow?
all hand writing is inconvenient and slow for me
how come? are you handicapped? me, I’ve got a tendon problem in my wrist and I can’t hold a mouse for very long without experiencing intense pain. But writing is fine
For me it’s because I can type 90+ wpm and I cannot come even remotely close to that with a pen.
It is an attention/cognitive issue. Writing by hand period feels like trying to think and process through molasses and becomes unbearable almost instantly.
alright, not familiar with that. Thanks for sharing
I write cursive and block at about the same speed I think
Alright
Block letters would be capitals and small letters.
No?
Architectural lettering, yes.
It’s faster for writing English, no?
If you write slowly sure, but print can be pretty quick to write.
sure, if you don’t have any language or learning disabilities…
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-writing-by-hand-is-better-for-memory-and-learning/
Cursive teaches you fine motor skills and improves hand strength.
No keyboard feels as good as a fine pen.
Not all hand writing is cursive
What does this have to do with cursive writing? It’s just talking about handwriting in general
If you wanna do a lot of handwriting, cursive comes out on top - it’s faster and less straining for your hand because you can use continuous motion. (and this comes from someone who had cramps in his hand in school because of the amount of writing - i can’t even imagine having to write so much again while NOT using cursive).
not all people have the same ability as you.
Your comment makes no sense to me.
Are you saying that, because some people can’t write cursive, no one should?
That’s like saying because some people need wheelchairs we should outlaw walking.
At no point did I advocate for anything other than my opinion that cursive is a stupid, bullshit ass writing method. And that telling me about the benefits of it is kind of like telling a wheelchair user the benefits of stairs. If we’re going with that analogy.