i’m imagining it. the content doesn’t change, so the meaning of the meme doesn’t change (fun without commitment). the only thing that could cause someone to label it as “incel” is, ironically, the reader’s own biases about women.
Guy that’s mad because he’s been flirting with a woman and wants to get with her but she explains to him that she doesn’t wanna be with him but just wants him to want her.
It’s not how I read it initially, but hear me out…
Wants to get in a relationship but can’t? Check.
Blames the woman for it? Check
again, this “interpretation” only works if the reader already has certain biases about women - specifically that women owe men a monogamous, serious, long term relationship, and wanting something casual, fun, noncommittal makes them “bad” somehow. which is the real misogynistic perspective.
and the meme doesn’t blame the woman in any way at all. the woman just doesn’t want a relationship & wants some fun without commitment. that’s it. anything else is just the reader projecting their own biases.
I agree, mostly, as that’s how I read it as well. But I also think that it’s easier to misunderstand that you’re making it out to be. Because there’s context from your previous posts which isn’t explained in this meme. There’s just the mention of fling in the title but the actual meme only says “I wanna be single but I want you to be obsessed with me”. And a person in a non monogamous relationship wouldn’t refer to themselves as “single”, for example, which leads to more confusion, I think
Change your perspective and imagine the meme was made by a (male) incel and you’ll get what they were getting at.
i’m imagining it. the content doesn’t change, so the meaning of the meme doesn’t change (fun without commitment). the only thing that could cause someone to label it as “incel” is, ironically, the reader’s own biases about women.
my points still stand.
Guy that’s mad because he’s been flirting with a woman and wants to get with her but she explains to him that she doesn’t wanna be with him but just wants him to want her.
It’s not how I read it initially, but hear me out…
Wants to get in a relationship but can’t? Check. Blames the woman for it? Check
Incel’s perspective checks out, imo.
again, this “interpretation” only works if the reader already has certain biases about women - specifically that women owe men a monogamous, serious, long term relationship, and wanting something casual, fun, noncommittal makes them “bad” somehow. which is the real misogynistic perspective.
and the meme doesn’t blame the woman in any way at all. the woman just doesn’t want a relationship & wants some fun without commitment. that’s it. anything else is just the reader projecting their own biases.
I agree, mostly, as that’s how I read it as well. But I also think that it’s easier to misunderstand that you’re making it out to be. Because there’s context from your previous posts which isn’t explained in this meme. There’s just the mention of fling in the title but the actual meme only says “I wanna be single but I want you to be obsessed with me”. And a person in a non monogamous relationship wouldn’t refer to themselves as “single”, for example, which leads to more confusion, I think
So like a guy who is just in it for the sex?
Yeah, the person portrayed would still be the problem.