There is a really interesting experiment there, right? I guess we have all watched or heard of Matrix, wondered what if everything is a simulation, and seen code somewhere. What if you take a guy from some backwater place who has never seen any code, give the poor guy DMT and shine a laser at a wall? Is it a thing we imagine because the brain is wired that way? Or because we are culturally primed to imagine this? A guy who has never driven a car probably won’t have that classic “car with no/broken brakes” dream either, right?
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True, my comment was more an also and an as well than a correction.
I’m getting into Jung a bit right now, and his thinking that the “collective unconscious” is some real extra-dimensional Encyclopedia Brittanica is annoying, though I think that trait is more pronounced among his fans.
We’ve gone soft as a society, I tell you! If science cannot progress without kidnapping a guy from Sentinel Island and giving him psychosis, then that is a sacrifice I am willing to make!
That’s not science. Science would be kidnapping a representative group from Sentinel Island and also kidnapping control groups from various places around the world to compare and rule out specific cultures only having that.
And then the results are dubious anyways because I don’t think there are any translators for the Sentinel Island language, so the only difference you’d see is their sudden rise to technological parity and then superiority to the rest of the world and somehow the control groups are all in contact with them, too, despite the control tests all happening local to their populations.
By the time you notice the pattern that the control groups are helping the Sentinels take over the planet, it’s too late.
Then the tables turn entirely and you find yourself kidnapped and led through a building that defies your imagination; rooms seen through hallways look too big, people are doing things you can’t comprehend in some of them. Not like weird rituals but it looks like science, but you don’t recognize any of the objects they were manipulating excitedly.
You are brought into a room and informed that they are trying to decide whether to punish you for kidnapping them or reward you for inadvertently unlocking their minds.
There is a really interesting experiment there, right? I guess we have all watched or heard of Matrix, wondered what if everything is a simulation, and seen code somewhere. What if you take a guy from some backwater place who has never seen any code, give the poor guy DMT and shine a laser at a wall? Is it a thing we imagine because the brain is wired that way? Or because we are culturally primed to imagine this? A guy who has never driven a car probably won’t have that classic “car with no/broken brakes” dream either, right? .
Of course it’s because of culture.
Yes, often culture plays a huge role, but some psychedelic experiences are universal and likely reflect the way our brains construct reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stIUrIgODFs
Yea but you’re not going to see code running if you haven’t ever seen code. This is clearly something coming from culture.
It’s like people seeing hags in the US under sleep paralysis and people elsewhere seeing other mythological creatures.
True, my comment was more an also and an as well than a correction.
I’m getting into Jung a bit right now, and his thinking that the “collective unconscious” is some real extra-dimensional Encyclopedia Brittanica is annoying, though I think that trait is more pronounced among his fans.
It’s a bit unethical but I like the idea. Hate the car dream though.
We’ve gone soft as a society, I tell you! If science cannot progress without kidnapping a guy from Sentinel Island and giving him psychosis, then that is a sacrifice I am willing to make!
Let’s ask Peter for some venture capital
That’s not science. Science would be kidnapping a representative group from Sentinel Island and also kidnapping control groups from various places around the world to compare and rule out specific cultures only having that.
And then the results are dubious anyways because I don’t think there are any translators for the Sentinel Island language, so the only difference you’d see is their sudden rise to technological parity and then superiority to the rest of the world and somehow the control groups are all in contact with them, too, despite the control tests all happening local to their populations.
By the time you notice the pattern that the control groups are helping the Sentinels take over the planet, it’s too late.
Then the tables turn entirely and you find yourself kidnapped and led through a building that defies your imagination; rooms seen through hallways look too big, people are doing things you can’t comprehend in some of them. Not like weird rituals but it looks like science, but you don’t recognize any of the objects they were manipulating excitedly.
You are brought into a room and informed that they are trying to decide whether to punish you for kidnapping them or reward you for inadvertently unlocking their minds.