• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    That “single issue” is literally genocide. I don’t really care if Adolf Hitler aligns with me on wanting to make train rides free.

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      3 days ago

      Gazabrained take. Protest another two state politician while Trump posts AI memes of hotels on Palestinian land.

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        I remember when people used to make jokes about how like, if one side says “kill all the Jews” and the other side says, “don’t kill anyone,” the reasonable centrist position would be to kill half the Jews. It was a way of parodying centrists and lesser-evilism, because any line of logic that leads to that kind of mass murder is obviously wrong.

        These days, the joke doesn’t work because people are unironically screaming about how you have to support the person who wants to kill half the Palestinians or you’re a bad person. You all have become such ridiculous self-parodies that there’s nothing I could say to criticize you that’s worse than your own stated positions.

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          who wants to kill half the Palestinians

          You mean kill all the Palestinians, but do it with decorum

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          So you don’t care about saving half the Palestinians?

          Have you watched Schindler’s list? Would you just have profited off the Holocaust, because saving a few wouldn’t matter?

          Most “I’m privileged enough that my vote doesn’t impact me” position I’ve ever heard.

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            What the fuck are you talking about? What a bunch of bizarre leaps of logic.

            How on earth do you get from “I’m opposed to genocide” to “I would be fine profiting from the Holocaust because who gives a shit?” Show your work.

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              Voting to save half the Palestinians isn’t worth it, because half still die. => Any effort for Harm reduction is useless if there is still some Harm => Why save some Jews if most still die? Might as well profit because its more convenient for you.

              There’s the work.

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                Voting to save half the Palestinians isn’t worth it, because half still die.

                Voting to kill half the Palestinians is not morally justifiable because genocide is inherently unjustifiable. So no, I wouldn’t profit off the Holocaust, because I’m opposed to genocide.

                Why save some Jews if most still die? Might as well profit because its more convenient for you.

                I don’t see why you wouldn’t profit off the Holocaust. Either way, the genocide is going to happen. Stopping the Holocaust simply isn’t on the table. But we can either have the Holocaust, or we can also have the Holocaust plus you get some money out of it. Which one is the “lesser evil?”

                Maybe you can even donate a portion of your Holocaust profits to a charity. See, if you weren’t profiting off the Holocaust, someone else would be, and would they donate to charity? Harm reduction!

                I’m the one saying no, fuck that shit, a line has to be drawn. You’re using some insane troll logic to twist “drawing a hard line against genocide” to “supporting genocide.”

                This is you.

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                    Nah, I’m not sweating or holding my head. I’m 100% confident in my decision and would do the same again, and will if faced with a similar situation in the future. I am utterly unconcerned by any thought of, “maybe I’m not willing to support genocide enough.”

                    It’s so bizarre to me that liberals think the trolley problem is just this black and white thing with a clear, objective answer that’s applicable to the real world.

                    Do you think you’re the first people to ever use that kind of logic to justify genocide? How many of those people were on the right side of history?

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          That’s some “anyone who doesn’t scribble in a unicorn on their voter sheet supports genocide” bullshit. In the real world we have to vote for real people with thoughts and life experiences we don’t always 100% align with.

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            I wonder how many percentage points genocide counts for in your book, in terms of “not 100% align with.” 1%? 10%? Because for me it’s like, 99%.

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              I’m sure once all the Palestinians are dead they’ll take great comfort in knowing you not once compromised in your unwavering support. They’ll die in your honor. With dignity.

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                I’m sure once all the Palestinians are dead they’ll take great comfort in knowing you not once compromised in your unwavering support.

                I’m sure you’ll feel empty because there are no more Palestinians left to kill.

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                Why didn’t you answer the question? You said it’s “not 100%.” I’m just asking you to be a bit more specific.

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                  This is also what immediately jumped to my mind when reading this discussion, it’s the trolley problem.

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        Gazabrained take.

        BlueMAGA ghouls are as evil as the regular kind