• BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    No, a “viable third option” will never exist in the current system. Your democracy isn’t democratic.

    In Europe we don’t use a winner-takes-all system like in the U.S. Instead, we use proportional representation, which means parties get seats based on how many votes they receive. That’s why we have many parties in parliament, not just two.

    But even the European system is in my book not a true democracy. Its simply the best democratic system we could come up with before industrialisation, but the world is different now.

    The only real democracy in the world, which i wish my country would adopt, is the Swiss.

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      3 days ago

      The two party system is only the issue superficially. Compromises have to be made at different stages. Germany has a multi party system, with the effect that governments have to be formed as coalitions based on compromises. Suddenly the party you voted for because they support renewables starts to support surveillance tech and wants to kick out immigrants. Then they write a coalition agreement that isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, and let themselves be pushed through their 4 years by right wing media.

      Two party systems have their issues, but once a party is elected, they can actually do what they said they would do. Now everyone is shocked trump does exactly that

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        2 days ago

        Thats why i said the only real democracy is the Swiss.

        In Switzerland you can appoint any person to be your representative, not just the pre-selected candidates, and you can keep them as your representative for as long as you trust them to actually represent your opinions.

        If you know that you differ in certain topics, you can you say “hey, i’m gonna make this decision myself buddy” and then you vote on the law yourself, and he can continue to represent you in the elections you agree on.

        Or if your representative betrays your trust, you can say “fuck you, i’m finding someone else” from day to day, not having to wait another 4 years to vote for another pre-selected candidate.

        Democracy is supposed to mean that the people govern. Any model of democracy where your vote can be used to make decisions you disagree with, is not democratic.

        Representative democracy might have been the best model 200 years ago, but in the 21st century it is dated and abused.

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        2 days ago

        Where did you get that? By saying that Europe dont use a winner takes all two party system? Mention one country in Europe that does.

        You know what, even if you can mention one, it doesnt change the fact that almost every country in Europe doesnt 🤷‍♂️