• jontree255@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      I agree but it’s like asking “where would you like to be stabbed?”

      For any Democrat trying to “move to the center” I’d like to point towards Labour in UK and ask them how that’s going.

      Thankfully 2028 is a political lifetime away and Newsom might not even be relevant.

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        Labour UK has been kind of astounding to watch. They started strong then somewhere around six months in it started to get wonky. And now it’s like some sort of Labourexit. Bizarre. But I guess that’s why the Greens are growing.

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          Newsom would tell the base to fuck off while funding ICE and war, guaranteeing republican victories in 2030 and 32. He would be a Biden 2.0.

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            Biden did a lot of great things during his time as president and it’s a testament to the failing american education system and the right-wing propaganda machine how people couldn’t see it.

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              He also enabled genocide in Palestine and set the stage for Trump to win

              All in all, a net negative to the world.

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                  That’s like saying the fever is what’s making you feel bad.

                  Like, sure. But you’re blaming the symptom not the cause. It’s the virus that did it.

                  Wagging your finger at those disillusioned by Dems being shit clearly hasn’t worked multiple times now. Maybe we should try something else.

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              It’s also a testament to how bad the Biden administration failed at messaging.

              Biden’s BBB and infrastructure spending was some of the best legislature of our lifetimes(yes BBB was watered down, corrupted, and did not meet the moment, but the bar is in hell).

              Instead of doing full-court media blitz to advertise this victory to voters, they said almost nothing. Too afraid that Biden would reveal his dementia to the public, I guess. Fewest press conferences in modern presidential history, by far.

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      It’s not going to be JD. Mark my words, save my comment, it’s going to be Tucker Carlson. And if that happens and Dems haven’t changed their tune we are absolutely fucked.

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        If that happens and leftists are still their own biggest enemies with their pursuit of an ideologically pure candidate that doesn’t exist we’ll be fucked.

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          I don’t think most leftists are looking for an ideologically pure candidate, they’re looking for someone who will actually represent the people. The Israel issue is a great example of this disconnect; amongst Dem voters 90% are against supporting Israel, and yet there’s only a handful of Democrat politicians who have are agaimst sending Israel military aid. It’s really not a high bar for candidates to clear, and yet establishment Dems just keep SPRINTING to the right.

          Leftists arent their own enemies, their enemies are neoliberals.

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              Newsom is not left wing just because his interns make fun of Trump on twitter. Some people don’t want their options to be “fascist” or “neoliberal” and shills like you critizise them more than they do with the literal nazis keeping this system in place

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                I have friends and family getting their rights taken away and getting deported right now I need Trump gone.

                If that makes me a shill so be it.

                Start a party that has a chance then start lecturing about changing the system.

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      That’s because yOu LoVe tEh GeNoSiiiiiDe!!11!

      I, however, am SO much smarter and better than you. I choose to let trump win.

      . . . Wait how was this supposed to work again?

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        yOu LoVe tEh GeNoSiiiiiDe

        You downplay opposition to your only policy. Because, and this is the only true thing about you or any centrist: YOU. LOVE. GENOCIDE.