• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    You are happy to accept this as long as no one had a non-genocidal candidate to vote for.

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      2 days ago

      No im not. Those iranians wouldnt have died if trump was not in office. Everyone who didnt do all they could to stop his assention is responsible for their deaths. They would not have died if kamela had won. The palestiniams would have died either way so they do not change the equation at all.

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          1 day ago

          The gall to ignore the deaths of Iranian civilians while saying this

          Just admit you prefer to let more innocent people get hurt as long at you can claim your hands are clean. If you can’t uphold your purity you would rather let people die

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            Something else to think about? If you voted third party or sat out, your hands aren’t necessarily clean ofgenocide. Do you pay federal income tax?

            I would argue that contributing thousands of unaccountable $ to the federal government which you know is going to engage in violence and empire building makes one much more morally culpable for US actions than a single vote for president in a single election.

            Can those who think the moral action was to not vote at all or not vote D or R because that is support for genocide, but who pay federal income tax, care to explain how their hands are clean?

            To bring it back to the trolley problem, it’s like refusing to pull the lever because to do so would be to acknowledge that the entire exercise is ethical or otherwise valid, while forgetting to mention that you personally financed that specific trolley and stretch of track.

            I suspect there a certain kind of person that is only interested in taking moral or ethical stands if the personal consequences for doing so are zero. How long do we think it would take for either major party to start begging the electorate to tell them how to behave if a significant majority of the populace decided today to stop going to work and to stop paying any taxes?

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            1 day ago

            The gall to ignore the deaths of Iranian civilians while saying this

            It must really bother you that you have to pretend that you don’t love it.

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          2 days ago

          No i didnt. I voted for harris to try and stop this bullshit. YOU got what you wanted. Harris lost and now the world must contend with the consequences and even more people will die.

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            1 day ago

            No i didnt.

            You got genocide and no centrist has ever wanted anything else.

            I voted for harris to try and stop this bullshit.

            I voted for harris. I will never forgive myself for voting for genocide just because it was the less horrible option. You voted for genocide first, candidate second.

            Harris lost and now the world must contend with the consequences and even more people will die.

            You got the only thing you ever wanted. Stop griping that your close second choice is doing it instead of your first choice.

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              Stop pretending other people are responsible for YOUR choices, you monster

              You’re just not believable. Everything you say appear crafted to convince people to stop opposing Republicans’ acceleration of genocide. You’re trying to convince people to stop taking action to oppose evil, to settle for just complaining about it.

              You want people to stop taking action and stop making better choices because no choice is pure enough. But instead that makes you responsible when the worst outcomes happen

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                1 day ago

                You’re trying to convince people to stop taking action to oppose evil, to settle for just complaining about it.

                I’m trying to get people to kick the worthless genocidal shit you worship to the curb where they belong. I advocate for the honest primaries you don’t want because dishonest primaries are the only thing keeping your genocidal shit in office where you want anyone who wants to murder Palestinian children for your entertainment.

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                  4 hours ago

                  You havent advocated for anything but voter apathy and disengagent. Your arguments herr are exactly why this is all happening.

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                    2 hours ago

                    You havent advocated for anything but voter apathy and disengagent.

                    I get that you think that since you can’t imagine a politician moving away from your only policy.