YouTube's quiet crackdown on family plans is starting to hit users with a warning email
  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    8 months ago

    How are they able to tell if you are in a different household ? If the user use different VPNs then it shouldn’t be able to tell the different between that and being in different locations. So are they gathering internal network data, are they spying on the LAN and wifi ?

    • wackoCamel@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      8 months ago

      I have a hot take. I pretty much exclusively watch YouTube as my form of TV entertainment. On most days, I watch many hours between putting something on to go to sleep or actually watching stuff in the day such as training courses or whatever. Sure, I could easily set up my TVs and devices to work around it, but I think it’s actually worth it to just pay for Premium and not have the hassle. I feel I get more than my fair share out of it.

      • Tetsuo@jlai.luEnglish
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        8 months ago

        What I’m not ok with YouTube premium :

        • The price is too high for a subscription. For that price I could get thousands of movies on a competing service like Netflix.

        • Even if you take YouTube premium they are still farming your data and selling it to third parties.

        So even if I watch a ton of YT I refuse to pay to sell my data.

        If I pay for YT they have to not track me and not sell my data (at least data coming from YT).

        So yeah taking YT is hassle free but is quite the scam if you think about it. Before paying you were the product. After paying you are still the product but on top of that you give them money.

  • kinkles@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Well fuck. It never crossed my mind that YouTube would do this since I don’t view it the same as other traditional streaming services. This will really suck for my friends who I’ve happily let mooch off my plan for years.

  • nymnympseudonym@piefed.socialEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Fuck GOOG for normalizing surveillance capitalism
    Fuck YouTube in particular for making it basically impossible to usefully host an Invidious proxy any more and for their algorithmic manipulation

    PeerTube is the Way

    • Mihies@programming.devEnglish
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      8 months ago

      A big problem with peertube is monetization. There should be some sort of mechanism that’d do that automatically. Otherwise there won’t be much content ever. Don’t get me wrong, I’m really happy that it exists but just don’t see it replacing even few % of YouTube as it is.

      • Chozo@fedia.io
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        8 months ago

        If you want monetization and scalability, you’re gonna have to get ads. Ad-free subscription services that actually benefit the creators are exceedingly rare. Very few people (less than 0.1%) are “making it” on Patreon and the like. The bitter truth is that most users can’t afford to financially support their favorite creators, and damn near zero creators could get the level of exposure needed to be sustainable without an ad-based platform backing them.

        Video hosting is expensive af. Ultimately, small-time content creation is completely dependent on corporate benefactors. This is why every video platform that’s tried to compete against YouTube has failed. Nebula is trying, but that’s only useful to creators who fit within its specific niche.

        I’m not saying this as a vote of support for the current system. Just an observation of how the market has played out so far.

          • Chozo@fedia.io
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            8 months ago

            No, and neither has anybody else. Not saying that to be rude or dismissive, but just using their own numbers on the front page to paint a picture. They have ~3,000 paying members as of right now. Patreon has over 10,000,000 paying members, and even then only a tiny, tiny fraction of their creators are actually sustainable.

            Paid subscription services like this are a great idea, in theory; I’d love to get away from ad-supported platforms. But the truth is that they just don’t work for all but a few lucky people.

              • Chozo@fedia.io
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                8 months ago

                That’s 100% true, but YT also foots the bill that creators would otherwise be responsible for when it comes to just the basics. Free hosting/distribution of high res full-length videos, globally accessible, with a player app that is actively developed and maintained, a recommendation algorithm to put your content in front of viewers’ eyes… That, alone, has tremendous value for a creator that they really can’t get anywhere else without paying out of pocket. All of those things would have to otherwise be paid for/maintained by the creators. While it’s not a direct payment, YT relieves a huge burden for creators.

                It sucks because it keeps creators’ success dependent on corporate oligarchs. But at the same time, it’s also great because it gives them a fighting chance to get started.

  • SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.worldEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Run a personal VPN server at the home address and have external users route through it. I’d think it’d work for any subscription service doing this crap. I’m surprised nobody has started selling a turnkey self-hosted VPN device that even a non-techie can get running in a few steps - all the end users would need is an app that does split tunneling for the media players.