Democrats spent the last year asking where their Joe Rogan was. Hasan Piker is one of the few left-wing figures with the audience they covet — but the party is deeply hostile to the spontaneity and independence that make figures like him appealing.

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    The choices were only “vote for Harris” or “help Trump.”

    Or vote third party. Which I proudly did. And will do again unless the Democrats stop fucking shit up.

    Did you think I wanted that class traitor prosecutor bitch either?! Fuck, no!

    So why didn’t you speak up? Was it because you knew Lemmy would censor you? Do you think it’s right to censor someone for what you just said?

    That’s how the system works, and it does not care how much you or I both hate it.

    The system is like that because you refuse to support third-party support. By you refusing to validate third parties, they don’t have the pull they should have. But if EVERYONE voted third party, guess what? Shit would start to change. You are actually part of the problem, not the solution.

    Nobody was trying to “control people’s opinions;” we were trying to stop you from making an objective mathematical error that would destroy us all.

    And how did that work out for you? What ended up happening?

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      The choices were only “vote for Harris” or “help Trump.”
      Or vote third party.

      That’s a lie. “Vote third party” is a subset of “help Trump.”

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        Thanks for proving my point. I bet ya miss the lemmy times right before the 2024 election, huh? I bet you hate seeing how many people are pro-third party these days! lolol EDIT: A little too much snark, but poster is definitely showing how angry some people can be when it comes to third-party talk.

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          No, I don’t. Why? Because NOW is the time that we SHOULD be trying to replace the neoliberals!

          Could you quit your trolling for just a goddamn second and actually COMPREHEND what I’ve been writing?!

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            Because NOW is the time that we SHOULD be trying to replace the neoliberals!

            Then maybe you should stop being pissed off and yelling at people who support other parties.

            Could you quit your trolling for just a goddamn second and actually COMPREHEND what I’ve been writing?!

            So disagreeing with you is “trolling”?! I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

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              They were specifically talking about voting for third party in the 2024 general election. They weren’t yelling at people who support other parties.

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                Right, and people are free to vote however they want, in any election. People are allowed to vote for who they want to win. Third party or otherwise.

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                  Yeah and if they did it in 2024, they should accept the consequences of their actions, which includes ridicule.

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                    I’m perfectly fine with the ridicule, because I was right. And I totally accept the consequences of my actions, because I was right.

                    And this discussion started out by me saying that you all censored opinions and tried to control the narrative on here back in 2024.

                    How’d that work out for ya? Differing opinions on Lemmy got deleted. I saw people who criticized the two-party system got banned and accused of being russian agents.

                    All because Lemmy was scared of losing the election, at the time. Your whole “oh, it was a different time then though” reasoning sounds very very familiar to what other people of a certain mindset think. Hmmm…

                    I saw some good independent thinkers be shoo’d off of Lemmy. I saw false accusations and witch hunts happening.

                    And what did that censorship accomplish? What did trying to silence people accomplish?

                    NOTHING. You all lost to Trump. For a second time! By a margin so large, that even if all of the third-party voters had voted for Harris, she still would have lost.

                    I proudly voted third party, and I’ll proudly vote third party again. I will never hold my nose to vote or vote or the “lesser evil.” I’ll vote for who I want to win. Like I always have. And I always will.

                    I’m very proud of myself and the people who stood against the hate on here. :)


                    In case ya don’t quite get it: “Democratic National Committee officials who crafted the party’s postmortem on its loss to President Donald Trump in the 2024 election reportedly determined that the Biden administration’s support for Israel’s genocidal assault on Gaza cost Kamala Harris votes, contributing to her defeat.”

                    https://www.commondreams.org/news/kamala-harris-gaza-2024