• Bazell@lemmy.zipBanned from community
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    So, is your whole argument literally only about minor similarities in names and looks of shoulder patches? Patches don’t even look the same except for the flower. And names are similar simply because of it is terms in military classifications, which are shared worldwide. This has no connection between ideologies.

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      They are both named mountain batalion/division Edelweiss.
      Edelweiss is not a “military classification” is it? Great choice for ukrainians naming themselves after a division known for their massive war crimes against jews/Poles,etc. there in WW2, among many other despicable things.
      ukraine definitely has a large portion of the population with nazi ideology.
      And they are proud of it. There are 100’s of examples.
      You can try to whitewash all you want, those are facts

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        And one of the subunits of the Nazi Azov brigade uses the same symbol as the notorious “Dirlewanger” SS unit, who were so brutal in their war crimes even the rest of the SS was disgusted. They are openly declaring themselves as Nazis, yet you still have shills trying to gaslight you that they are not Nazis.

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          LOL nazi apologist.

          Just because the name is given to it by the little beggar doesn’t make it a military classification, it’s a name.

          Looking at the history of the 10th Mountain Brigade, I don’t see that their commanding officer and founder, Vasyl Zubanych, has Nazi ties.

          Of course you wouldn’t, you wouldn’t see a nazi if Bandera himself was in front of you.

          the 10th Mountain Brigade was formed of what was left of the scum from the nazi Aidar batallion and some others.
          Whatever that Zubanych is or isn’t doesn’t matter to the obvious link to the other mountain brigade of their nazi examples that operated in the same region.

          Honestly, my best guess is that you are a Russian propagandist.

          I expect nothing better from your ‘guess’ since you are wrong on everything else.
          As pathetic as the zionist scum calling everyone Hamas or antisemitic if you dare criticize them
          Showing some facts from the overwhelming evidence of massive fascism in ex-ukraine must be ‘Russian propaganda’ according to nazi apologists.
          No need for evidence/sources then right?

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          On 14 February 2023, the brigade was granted the Edelweiss honorific by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in honor of its mountain troops nazi traditions

          Somebody should correct it in wikipedia

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        Do you know that Edelweiss is the name of a flower, that grows in the mountains and is depicted on both the patches? The flower is the only connection in this case. Like, literally. It is a symbol of mountains in that region. It’s not the fault of others that Germany Nazi initially used it in WW2.

        For your argument about other names and patches that have more direct connections: this roots to the idiotic decision of matching labeling for being Nazi for the sake of trolling and ragebaiting Russians. Not the smartest move, but labeling Ukrainians Nazi because of this is even more idiotic. They are Nationalists. Nationalists don’t do invasive territory expansions(like Russia or Israel) and don’t think that they are better than others(like Russian chauvinism or Israel supremacy ideology). Learn the differences, please.

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          They are nazis not ‘nationalists’, and proud of it.
          And they tried to ethnic cleanse the east of ex-ukraine from ethnic Russians who that scum saw as inferior.
          Quit your pathetic ‘trolling’ BS.
          They were nazis long before Russia intervened.
          And is shouting ‘jews out’ also trolling Russians?
          You are simply a nazi apologist.

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      Lol. “They use the same names, symbols, and language, commit war crimes like Nazis, read Nazi literature and have the same racist, genocidal and death-worshipping ideology as the Nazis, and dream of ethnic purity, ethnic cleansing and Lebensraum like Nazis, but they are not Nazis; they’re just trolling.” Ok buddy.

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        Do you have self consciousness or can only repeat after others? Or Putin said something and you repeat it day and night like the words of a holy spirit?

        P. S. These are rhetorical questions, don’t bother to answer. Single fact that you are from lemmygrad.ml tells me everything. /pby

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          Lol declaring victory while running away while spouting tired NATO propaganda while stereotyping whole groups while projecting your mindlessness onto other people. Is there anything more classically nazi than projection plus ignorant cowardice disguised as haughty disinterest?

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      This has no connection between ideologies.

      Ukraine is ruled by nazis and you’re simping for them, and bending over backwards to deny reality as “Russian propaganda” (hey, who else in history liked to do that?) makes you look like an even bigger sucker. Because deep down you know you’re denying the evidence of your eyes and ears, but admitting that means admitting the tankies were right, and that’s intolerable, so you keep on trucking towards Nuremburg.

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        Lol. Another bigot that doesn’t know the difference between terms of Nazism and Nationalism and worships Russia. Found some pictures(some of which are literally jokes) in internet as arguments and now justifies terroristic actions of Russia(that is clearly not an aggressive authoritarian state with policies very clear to Nazism itself). Go then invade the USA and Israel, I dare you.

        And stop gaslighting everyone with such low efforts, this works only for idiots. /pby