Idk it sounds like it may have been used by a paramilitary group as well. Idk, I don’t know much about the Ukraine, but I would think they wouldn’t have fond memories of Nazis.
I don’t know much about the Ukraine, but I would think they wouldn’t have fond memories of Nazis.
Well, during WW2 at least 7 million Ukrainians fought in the ranks of Red Army against nazis plus unknown but large number of partisans and their direct supporters, while 200000-250000 actively fought for nazis. Sadly the latter were evacuated after war to Germany, Canada etc. and were funded and used by western governments to ferment anticommunist propaganda and act against regimes enemies (like the Stepan Bandera himself that participated in possibly even over 100 political murders in West Germany and was tied to US, British and German intelligence agencies).
When USSR was illegally dissolved in 1991, 75% of citizens od UkSSR voted against the dissolving in referendum, and thus against the independence of Ukraine. After which the nazis from previous paragraph returned in numbers and were still supported by western governments, slowly gaining more influence and power in Ukraine.
Ukrainians themselves, if anything, shown surprising resistance, leading to west organising numerous coups to move Ukraine right and against Russia (1991, 2004, 2014, 2019) ultimately installing neonazis in power in 2014 and then throwing entire country into meatgrinder of proxy war (that’s why i’m counting 2019 as a coup too, Zelensky was explicitly elected as peace candidate but instead he escalated civil war which led to Russian intervention).
Solidarity with Ukrainian people in getting rid of the nazi rot, but unfortunately it runs deep now and will require extraordinary efforts.
It’s kind of like America and the confederates. Most of us don’t like them, but some of us in certain regions like them a lot, and there’s a whole historical conflict that explains the difference but is almost always glossed over in discussion.
What does the symbol stand for?
This is the symbol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)
Well that depressing af
Idk it sounds like it may have been used by a paramilitary group as well. Idk, I don’t know much about the Ukraine, but I would think they wouldn’t have fond memories of Nazis.
Well, during WW2 at least 7 million Ukrainians fought in the ranks of Red Army against nazis plus unknown but large number of partisans and their direct supporters, while 200000-250000 actively fought for nazis. Sadly the latter were evacuated after war to Germany, Canada etc. and were funded and used by western governments to ferment anticommunist propaganda and act against regimes enemies (like the Stepan Bandera himself that participated in possibly even over 100 political murders in West Germany and was tied to US, British and German intelligence agencies).
When USSR was illegally dissolved in 1991, 75% of citizens od UkSSR voted against the dissolving in referendum, and thus against the independence of Ukraine. After which the nazis from previous paragraph returned in numbers and were still supported by western governments, slowly gaining more influence and power in Ukraine.
Ukrainians themselves, if anything, shown surprising resistance, leading to west organising numerous coups to move Ukraine right and against Russia (1991, 2004, 2014, 2019) ultimately installing neonazis in power in 2014 and then throwing entire country into meatgrinder of proxy war (that’s why i’m counting 2019 as a coup too, Zelensky was explicitly elected as peace candidate but instead he escalated civil war which led to Russian intervention).
Solidarity with Ukrainian people in getting rid of the nazi rot, but unfortunately it runs deep now and will require extraordinary efforts.
LMAO, maybe you need to know a little more about Ukraine.
It’s kind of like America and the confederates. Most of us don’t like them, but some of us in certain regions like them a lot, and there’s a whole historical conflict that explains the difference but is almost always glossed over in discussion.