• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    5 months ago

    I’d be more interested to see how many more/less white/black women voted red/blue compared to previous years rather than the ratio of those who did.

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      5 months ago

      That kind of contextual information is useful, but beware of anybody giving it to you without the bigger context of absolute numbers before and after. Liberal media loves using shifts like this to imply there’s a bunch of centrists who decided to change which way they’re leaning instead of “dems failed to improve the material conditions for their constituents, so fewer people voted dem. Meanwhile 12 black business owners voted republican instead of 6, an increase of 100%”

      In 2016, CNN and MSNBC spent months using that type of framing to blame black people for Hillary’s loss, essentially calling them ungrateful, homophobic, sexist, conservatives.

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        5 months ago

        a lot of black people are homophobic, sexist, and conservative. and racist.

        both things can be true.

        this idea that black people are all progressive liberals is just a projection from white progressive liberals complete lack of interaction with people outside their little enclaves. they aren’t.

        black voters are largely democratic, yes, but they are typically not progressives on social issues.

        What everyone forgot, esp on the Dem/liberal side, is you win by buying a coalition of voters around various issues on which they can find some mutual ground. Which is exactly what Trump did in '16 and '20 and the Democrats did with Obama in '08 and '12.

        Trump focused on the border, economy, and other rhetoric around which a lot of people found common interest. And racism was one of those interests. Many Hispanic voters also wanted the border closed. My Asian friends parents were Trump supporters, because they were anti-immigration. They were first gen immigrant and they hate new Asian immigrants coming here.