Its a problem where the ‘original’ goal is never really kept in mind with how things are available in the future. I’m sure when I looked at something “I’m going to use it for x” and then five years later “I’m going to use this for y”.

This drift exists especially in technology.

Has the horse bolted? I wonder how the CCP is tackling it, and the nature of their engagement with the USA after the summit.

A stance as well for not paying for art, as in not recognising the value of an artist, as in the socially neccessary labor time to produce art.

Sadly we cannot distance ourselves from say Microsoft, Anthropic, or OpenAI, or Mistral from the extractive behaviours they exhibit in relation to commodities. I could be done better, but it isnt. It seems more nuanced to look at specific models, open weights, but that seems too specific to be relevant however relevant it is.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I do indeed have in my head Rojava in my head when thinking, or indeed reacting. Even Ángel Pestaña said

"So, as for the Bolsgeviks - Russia’s rulers, the men who hold power in the name of the working class. We refuse to hold then responsible for all the evils that afflict the Russian people.

Material responsibility for all the miseries we witnessed in Russia, falls as an affront, a stigma and a terrible accusation against Europe’s governments and bourgeoisie. They are responsible, they are by far the most responsible

One must absolve the Bolsheviks of this sin. They have enough faults already on their conscience as socialists, and also burdening them with ones they did not commit, and sins for which they are not responsible.

I have been digging further into where I think my source of frustration is with the aim to excise it, as even the GS of the CNT could.

Anarcho-somethings are usually described as being ‘left-communism’, and LCs are usually critical of Leninist groups

Then you do exactly what you saif you would do. You ‘escort’ the plane with miltary planes, that have a progressive level of escalation which if taken to the most extreme could be getting shot down.

Here you go comrade: https://lemmy.ml/comment/27980158

Its a conversation that goes exactly as you would expect.

It goes like this:

Plane carrying a person accused of crimes against humanity: “Air traffic control ICC this is airplane ABC-123 requesting permission to enter airspace DEF heading 123”

A country that is a signatory to the ICC and obligated to act on an international arrest warrant for persons wanted to stand trial for crimes against humanity if they enter their territory: “Permission denied, if you eneter this airspace you will be escorted to military base HIJ where you will be detained and escorted to the ICC to stand trail for crimes against humanity.”

There’s no point having a discussions with people like me that are intractable when it comes to the technology and are acutely aware of the USA capitalist ruling class and the atrocities they commit and enable, with people that are unable and unwilling to understand what a model is, and are approaching computer science like a luddite.

The USA capitalists are having you lick their boots when you think that “AI” = ChatGPT. You’re not ‘chatting’ with anything. You, me, and many others, are constantly falling for their marketing shit all the time. Don’t bite!

If you can differentiate between a stack of PS3s that made a ‘super computer’ to try to predict what the weather will be tomorrow and the USA building a datacenter, poisoning your water, denying you electricity, stealing your capital, surveiling you, and influencing your decisions, then we can definitely sit together and use our brains to dismantle the infrastructure of oppression. Your enemy is not ‘conversation simulators’, its capitalism.

You’re right. I did the stupid.

I replied to you but I had a conversation about AI in my head but will leave it up, sorry.

I still don’t know how someone looked at the trump administration and thought yes please 4 more years. I also understand that looking at biden and thinking 4 more years, no thanks.

The same commentators who through introspection can say that socialist movements across the world need to work with the USA isnt a betrayal of the revolution seemingly cannot apply the same caveated analysis to the shinier of two turds in a two party system sounds like more American exceptionalism. If youre not voting for your “communist party of”, is this just virtue signalling?

There’s no point having a discussion with people like me that are intractable when it comes to the technology and are acutely aware of the USA capitalist ruling class the atrocities they commit and enable with people that are unable an unwilling to understand what a model is, and are approaching computer science like a luddite.

The USA capitalists are having you lick their boots when you think that “AI” = ChatGPT. You’re not ‘chatting’ with anything. You, me, and many others, are constantly falling for their marketing shit all the time.

If you can differentiate between a stack of PS3s that made a ‘super computer’ to try to predict what the weather will be tomorrow and the USA building a datacenter, poisoning your water, denying you electricity, stealing your capital, surveiling you, and influencing your decisions, then we can definitely sit together and use our brains to dismantle the infrastructure of oppression. Your enemy is not ‘conversation simulators’, its capitalism.

I stand corrected, Trump’s administration is definitely a better pick than a potential Kamala administration.

Not everything is a fucking chat bot.

I mean this is where we have to disagree, I think there are loads of benefits from the technologies. But capitalism is the wrong motivator… “How can we make money out of this?” don’t make me puke. It should be free for all, to cure cancer, to decipher ancient languages, to model the climate etc.

Exactly. Things in advanced analtyics or ML or whatever are totally smeared over with a broad brush, they give everything the landlord special.

The kind of crappy art generation is vastly different than the types of AI used in drug discovery.

In fact drug discovery is a pretty good problem for AI to help solving.

You’re absolutely not wrong.

People laughed, saying a vote for Kamala was pointless, and a vote for genocide, but everyone has suffered under this atrocity of an administration. I don’t know that Kamala would have called Marxists terrorists.

The motive isn’t to extract as much capital out of the customers as possible.

People should definitely have this sort of power other others! And both of the other police, did they receive any repercussions for standing by while someone is assaulted? Fucking doubt it. If the bunch is rotten, compost the bunch.