I did vote. For Jill Stein.

Which is why Trump is now president. Good job bro.

Didn’t read the rest of whatever you said there.

Yeah I’m not suprised. Heaven forbid a leftist acknowledge criticism or some shit. I mean you’ve read every book on theory that exists so obviously you must be right about everything.

For further info may I suggest reading a fucking book for once in your life?

Maybe the reason why you people never accomplish anything is because you’re sitting around reading books about theory written by men who died 200 years ago and not putting any of that theory into practice. I mean, that would actually require getting up off your ass and doing something, so I understand.

The only leftists in the US worth mentioning are on watch lists and have been for a lot longer than 40 years

Which only reinforces my point about how useless and innefectual the left is in this country.
The reason why the left is useless and ineffectual, by the way, is because they don’t vote.

Democrats are center-right, halfwit.

This is only true because, once again, leftists don’t vote.

Well tell us something we don’t know

Look, if you truly can’t tell the difference in policy between Republicans and Democrats, then yes maybe you shouldn’t vote. One can only bring the horse to water.
I’m just sick of people giving me shit for attempting to stop fascism from taking over my country, when they themselves refuse to lift a finger to do it, people like this mouthbreather telling me “I’m glad you’re suffering” when in real life we’re all suffering. Like somehow all these people think the suffering the fascists cause is going to be confined to only those of us who voted democrat. So fucking frustrating, I have zero pateince for this shit, especially because the reason this shit is happening is because the left in this country refuses to fucking vote.
I’m serious. Why did Biden support the genocide? Because leftists refused to vote. Why did Trump send thugs to kidnapp people in the street? Because leftists refuse to vote. Why did Trump cut USID and thereby starve millions of children to death worldwide? Because leftists refused to vote. Why is did Trump invade Iran and start WWIII? Because leftists refuse to vote.
I just want to see leftists in this country fucking do something instead of standing around acting superior to everyone else.

I mean, the conservatives and republicans sure did accomplish a lot of stuff in the last 40 years. You’d think the leftists in this country would have someting to actually point to, beyond just standing around waving cardboard signs and complaining about comedians and stuff.

Tell me, what did you actually think would happen to Palestine if Trump won?
Secondly, of the two (Trump or Harris), which would be more open/vulnerable to political pressure from the left?
Be honest, use reason, tell the truth.

I guess I should just say yes to Trump like all you purists did.

Maybe to stupid people it looks like I’m losing, yes.

Still waiting for an answer to my question about what the left has actually accomplished in the last 40 years. You’d think if I were losing the argument he’d answer that.

Like I said, I’m sick of people like you. I voted to stop facsim. You stood around with your balls in your hands.

I agree with the exact opposite of this.
In 2024 the choice of which candidate would lead us to fascism was obvious to anyone paying attention. The left in this country decided to take it’s ball and go home, and now we’re living through the consequences. The left does not deserve to walk away from this blunder without criticism.

Even if I grant that voting for democrats somehow in some twistabout way “supported facism” (which is bullshit,) it was plain to see for anyone with a brain what would happen if the actual facist, you know, the one posting god damned nazi memes in his campaign videos, was allowed to take power. Now we’re living through the consequences of the inaction of the left to get up off it’s ass and do something.

I’m just sick of people trying to blame me for the actions of the people I voted against when they themselves were too lazy to turn out and do the absolute minimum to combat fascism

Yeah so I asked “What has the left actually accomplished” not “what ineffectual actions are they doing to stop fascim after it’s already taken power.”

The legalization of cannabis can’t be solely attributed to leftists, but they certainly contributed to that accomplishment as well. And the decriminalization of psychedelics even moreso.

So those things were decriminalized by passing laws, correct? Kinda sounds like something you have to be politically active and vote for. Or do laws magically just pass when you stand around in the street with a cardboard sign?

Now let’s flip the question on you. What have the Democrats actually accomplished in the last 30 years?

Well, there was that thing you tried to take credit for, which is legalizing marijuana. We can also add legalizing gay marriage on top of that, those are two things that come to mind.

You literally cannot imagine someone who isn’t you.

Answer my question or GTFO. What have you done to stop genocide? You’re so passionate about this that you refuse to vote against facisim, so tell me what you’re doing? Standing around, holding a sign? Supergluing your hands to the street and holding up traffic so people are late to work? Maybe you followed a bunch of ICE agents around and blew whistles or banged on pots and pans or some shit? Yeah that’ll show’em, am I rite?

Yeah? Well the Republicans seem pretty fucking effectual. Maybe I should join them, if effectual is all that matters. I certainly wouldn’t join your completely useless political project.

Yeah thats why I said we should vote against them, try to keep up. But since you’re too moral and pure to sully yourself with the indignity of engaging in the one actual activity that would’ve keep these assholes from taking power and your inaction has allowed the worst possible scenario to take place, please tell me what you’re actually doing to stop genocide and defeat fascisim. What the hell are you and your movement doing to fix this?

I mean, I vote and engage in the political process, but that’s just me.

Fucking cringe.

For someone who claims to not give a shit about my morals you sure do seem to expend a lot of energy trying to police what I think.

Lol, you mean those things that I literally mention in my post? Yeah like I said they did accomplish that, 100 years ago. Back when leftists actually, you know, voted.
What has the left actually accomplished, say in the last 30 years?

Well what the hell did you do to stop genocide? Watch a bunch of tik tok videos about why the latest Harry Potter video game is bad? Get the hell out of my face with this b.s. The truth is you and youre entire movement is ineffectual and you know it.

I’m glad you’re miserable, I think you should be more miserable.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

People like you are the reason the left hasn’t accomplished anything of note in 100 years.

I do.

Edit: This is stupid and you’re a bad person.

Voting Democrat in the general election isn’t nearly enough to stop the ratchet-effecting into fascism, and a stand-for-nothing placeholder centrist Democrat president in 2028 will probably just lead to Trump-3/Vance/someone similarly horrible in 2032

I mean, we could also just vote for a Democrat in 2032 and not have fascism. Or, we could defeat fascism in the United States if the left would just get up off it’s ass and DO SOMETHING instead of just complaining like they always do.

I’m serious. What the hell has the left actually done in this country to change anything, to stop fascism, to defeat capitalisim? Where are the collectives so I can get a job without having to go to a soul sucking corporation? Where are the “citizen patrols” so we don’t need to rely on fascist police to protect people? When somebody loses their job where’s the help, the support structure? When someone gets evicted and their house gets stolen by the bank what are the leftists doing about it? Where’s the alternatives to “the system” you all say you’re going to undermine but never actually do? This is all stuff that I’ve literally been hearing from the left my entire life, where the hell is it? Is it ever going to actually happen? I haven’t seen shit from “the left” in this country except a bunch of stupid youtube videos about how the latest blockbuster movie or YA novel doesn’t have enough representation in it or how celebrity/politician/CEO XYZ is bad so you better not support them/listen to their music/read their latest book else you’re supporting [insert bad thing here.] You understand me not playing a video game or watching a TV show becasue someone bigoted was involved in it’s creation changes nothing, right? You understand standing around holding a sign blocking traffic isn’t going to change anything, right? None of that virtue signaling shit matters, except to make yourself feel good. You know what actually CAN change things? You know what actually CAN defeat fascim? Voting. But we can’t even get the left to get up off it’s ass and do that every four years.

So you don’t like Democrats? Would the president of Venezuela been kidnapped if Kamala were president? Would ICE be out in the street busting down doors and sending people to death prisions in Columbia? Would ICE be straight up running people over and shooting them? Would Elon Musk and his band of dipshits have gutted the social safety nets so millions of kids starve to death? Would bombs be murdering entire families in Iran right now? The answer to these questions is “NO,” and anyone who thinks otherwise is part of the problem.

So please, don’t give me this shit about how voting democrats somehow “enables fascism” because that’s a load of B.S. 100 years ago it was LEFTISTS who made this country better. Because of LEFTISTS we have a 40 hour work week, and an 8 hour work day. LEFTISTS stopped child labor. LEFTISTS passed anti-corruption laws. LEFTSIST broke up the trusts, smashed monopolies, and stopped greedy corporations from spewing thier shit into the water and air. 100 years ago LEFTISTS got up off their asses and made the country a better place. And how did they do it? BY VOTING. Because protesting doesn’t change things, making tik tok videos that critique mainstream media doesn’t change things, throwing cans of soup at the Mona Lisa doesn’t change things - LAWS change things. And you pass laws by voting.

You don’t want to vote? Then don’t. But don’t give me this bullshit about how it doesn’t do anything, because it does. It’s the only god damned thing that actually changes things.

We’re all suffering, becuase some people refused to understand why voting matters. And not just us, now millions of people around the world are suffering.
I hope it feels good.