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  • Vendor lock in is an issue, true, but it’s a different issue than the enshittification we’re starting to see from Bitwarden. Also, apple passwords isn’t “locked in” per se, as passwords aren’t difficult to export.

    Lately, I’m starting to feel like finding good software (often FOSS but not exclusively) is increasingly a hook for later increased monetization. The ‘agreement’ I had with Bitwarden was they provide a solid service, and (while not required) I pay the $10/year honor system fee. That’s been upped to $20 now, and now they’re appearing to move away from their core principles. I won’t be paying for another year.

    With Apple, the unspoken agreement is I “overpay” for my hardware, and they don’t have incentive to monetize me otherwise. I’ll admit, there are cracks forming in that agreement, but that’s my read on it currently anyway, and I think probably the person to which you are replying to as well.










  • Because you and the other poster are making statements I feel are incorrect and worth refuting. And I most certainly reject the idea that the inability to submit App Store apps makes a computer e-waste.

    You and the other poster are so blinded by hatred for Apple that you cannot separate reasonable (and warranted) critique from unreasonable.


  • His 2019 is still usable and getting security updates. ITts as usable as your computer. It’s that it can’t do one thing any longer, and that is to develop apps that the App Store will accept. You can criticize the decision to only allow supported models to submit apps, but don’t mistake that for ewaste.

    Your 9 year old computer; pretty good chance it doesn’t allow for Windows 11. That’s what we’re talking about here, the ability to install the newest operating system. If you’re content without the newest OS, both computers are perfectly fine.



  • You’re defining “useful lifespan” of the Apple very differently than the Xbox. You’re defining the Apple by how long development tools are supported, and while that is a valid criticism, it is the same duration today as it was when you bought the laptop. By the metric you’re judging the Xbox, the MacBook Pro can connect to the internet, can run programs, and can connect to Apple’s consumer services the same as it ever could. Its life as a consumer device is far from over. I’m typing this on my pre-retina 2012 MacBook Pro (running Linux).

    You’ve said the machines “sole purpose” was development, yet you chose upgrades not essential to that process; the absolute fastest chip at the time and a larger SSD are arguably not necessary for the machine’s “sole purpose.” And the expected lifespan of the machine by that metric is no different today than when you bought it. Hate to put too fine a point on it, but you choose to overspend on a tool and are upset that the tool didn’t ROI your inflated expectation.

    Apple’s decision to require a Mac for development and “only” supporting for seven years is absolutely worthy of critique. But it’s also been consistent, and I’m sorry you didn’t factor that in when you bought the machine. Sounds like you’re done developing for iOS; I don’t blame you. But if you decided otherwise, you can get into a development machine for probably not too much more than what you can sell your 2019 MacBook Pro for. Mac mini (if you can find one) and even the Neo will run absolutely hog wild over the performance of your MBP.





  • I know 2019 seems like just a little bit ago, but it was 7 years ago. I mean, the machine has been supported for at least 7 years. From what you say, it appears you have the 2019 15-inch model only offered from May to November of that year; incredibly bad luck, as the 16 inch was introduced in November of that year and that model is still receiving updates.

    While I understand the frustration of not being able to write apps, it’s still a solid computer and I personally would love an Intel Mac to run Linux on.

    Edit: I took a look at which OS would’ve come with the computer you have. It’s 10.14 Mojave. Oldest MacBook Pro that ran on was the mid-2012, making the length of support you should have expected to be 7 years.