Man that is tough. I am so glad I wasn’t in school when corporal punishment was allowed. I looked it up and it was still allowed but I never witnessed it and then it was gone and I was very young. I do remember parents loving the fact that they came off scary to us children. It was one of those unsettling memories that made me wonder why.

Is this breaking the rules?

Thank you for sharing about the lack of support you are encountering when talking to the experts on what to do. When it came to understanding myself and others I found books more helpful than the experts. So, I definitely can relate to the lack of support when it comes to talking to the experts. I wish I could help with your situation but I am nowhere near qualified to help. I really do hope you find the answers. I am really fighting the urge to put my two cents in on maybe this/ maybe that lol. But really I do hope for the best for you.

First my post is about getting rid of spanking all together. In Europe the child has a right to a non-violent upbringing; even psychological injuries are not allowed. Did you know that “spanking alters children’s brain response in ways similar to severe maltreatment and increases perception of threats.” According to https://www.gse.harvard.edu/ideas/usable-knowledge/21/04/effect-spanking-brain “Our findings suggest that spanking is not an effective technique and actually makes children’s behavior worse not better” https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/spanking-linked-to-increase-in-childrens-behavior-problems.html

I am just pointing out what the scientific literature says. I don’t doubt some people love their children very much and spank. I think the science is showing something we should all be aware of.

The bible says love thy neighbor as thyself. I believe he is including children here. Psalms 103:13 “like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth him that fear him.” I believe the Bible does tell parents to show children mercy and love.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/26/un-deaths-immigration-custody-human-rights-law
UN calls for ‘prompt investigations’ of deaths in US immigration custody. It looks like the U.N. is getting involved. I am not saying it’s going to fix anything. I am saying something is happening where the U.N. is trying to hold people accountable. At least something is happening here that might lead to some good.

This all has to do with people abusing human rights. Children’s human rights are being violated by parents abusing them. And Human rights are being violated by Trump and how he is abusing the people he doesn’t like. Children’s human rights matter just as much as the people who are being detained by Trump.

Ok, what it seems to boil down to is if things were as bad as you say the U.N. would be interfering. Why isn’t the U.N. stepping in to protect human rights. Since you are pointing out this violation to human rights that I was unaware of. I would like to point out this other violation of human rights I can’t seem to get many people on board with.

European countries have outlawed spanking have legally redefined parental autonomy to a child’s right to protection and non-violent upbringing. Even psychological injuries are not allowed. The law holds parents as authority in education, health, and daily routines. But the law treats the child as an individual citizen with the same basic human rights as an adult. I think America should put this law into force. The law should treat children as individual citizens. Here is some articles I found that show some merit to what I am saying. I don’t think spanking should be allowed on children.

According to Whitfield M.D. 80 to 90% of families are dysfunctional. According to https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/spanking-can-pose-long-term-harms-to-children-5-decade-analysis-suggests show As many as 80 percent of parents worldwide spank their children, according to a 2014 UNICEF report. ( sorry I couldn’t find a more recent survey of parents who spank)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2eyke83yz9o It observed that those who had been smacked saw the likelihood of them failing to get five pass grades (A*-C) at GCSE level, including English and Maths, increase by 5.7 percentage points. Smacking children could lead to lower GCSE grades, study suggest

https://theconversation.com/corporal-punishment-of-children-linked-to-lower-school-grades-50497 this study showed that “We found that children who reported experiencing corporal punishment at age eight had on average significantly lower maths scores at age 12 in India, Peru and Vietnam. The size of the negative effect was large.”

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/ideas/usable-knowledge/21/04/effect-spanking-brain research shows that spanking alters children’s brain response in ways similar to severe maltreatment and increases perception of threats.

Can you provide a link to nostupidquestions because this website is hard to navigate. Just because I feel like I am being treated unfairly here I am just going to add that if I did thing this way https://piefed.social/c/politics@lemmy.world/p/2446899/democrats-abandon-trans-voters-at-their-peril I could have gotten people to respond to my post about how people are upset about getting rid of parental autonomy? Without them avoiding my question because I didn’t break the rules the correct way.

Seriously, I am getting a rash of crap for not following the rules. Apparently this is how you post what you want and not follow the rules.

Can you post a link to the no stupid questions. Since this forum is extremely limiting. This website is not an easy place to navigate where things are.

If you see in my post I cover the psychological injuries. I just think we live in a ridiculous time where the science shows how much damage spanking does and we still allow it. I think we definitely need to cover psychological damage as well. I think when a child starts to do poorly in school the first thing that needs to happen is they see a school psyologist’s that assess whether the child is suffering from some kind of PTSD related symptoms. Instead the first thing that is done is a report card is given to a parent. The evidence is clear that 90% of Americans will use unhealthy ways to try to get the child to do better in school. Parents are more likely to make the problem worse. Yet, we have a law that states a parent has the right to raise a house hold as they see fit. This doesn’t make sense to me.

Ok where is a place for a more open discussion?

I got very interested in trying to figure out if MAGA was becoming a Hitler like fascism. Hitler made himself chancellor making it nearly impossible to over throw him. Trump lost to Biden and wasn’t president for awhile. Hitler’s army openly killed the German soldiers that served the Eastern front. Civilians saw emaciated prisoners being forced to work and march through towns. This hasn’t been happening from what I have been seeing. Do I think something very strange is happening? Yes. Is something different happening than when Hitler took Power? Yes. I didn’t think I would ever meet Americans who would openly admit that they’d prefer a dictatorship. Our whole country was founded on freedom. Freedom from tyranny. Somehow we hit a point in our lives where Americans are saying they want a dictator.

Alright problem fixed. Now can people please give their opinion about killing others to keep parental autonomy. That is really the only thing I wanted out of this post. How do you feel about getting rid of parental autonomy.

From the scientific studies I am looked at their is a direct cause and effect relationship between spanking and bad grades. It is true that some kids can be spanked and not affected by it. I am pretty sure you will find high achievers with traumatic childhoods.

Well, that is the law that would be changing. That is why the I suggested what the Europeans are doing instead of parental autonomy.

I posted links up now. I must have missed the rule about linking every post to an article. This is nothing but politics. It is about changing the law about parents having parental autonomy.

I did read the rules and didn’t see any rules for waiting. I thought this was a great post. People so upset with a political idea they are willing to kill over it. I have now posted links. I think my post now follows the rules if not let me know. Can you please give your opinion on how strongly you or others feel about getting rid of parental autonomy?

To me the science shows that it is a flawed way to do things. Brain scans show that spanking causes PTSD.