cross-posted from: https://piefed.zip/c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk/p/1772948/stop-killing-the-internet-no-digital-id-no-age-verification-european-citizens-initiative
This initiative is just a smokescreen; it actually pushes things down the slippery slope.
Citizens must not be forced to identify themselves to access lawful online content or services unless strictly necessary, proportionate and provided by law. The legislation should require anonymous or pseudonymous proof-of-age, data minimisation, selective disclosure
Define “necessary”. Define “by law”. The pushers for proof-of-age already say it’s anonymous – but it can’t be.
but it can’t be
Not true. You can absolutely implement a boolean true/false function on an ID card. German IDs already have that. All you need is a compatible reader (future versions will work over NFC afaik).
How do you trust that it isn’t sending identifiable info to them too? Is the software open source and auditable? Is it legally enforced that every hardware uses the open source software?
I assume that it would need some kind of asymmetric encryption signature on the boolean too, and make it change all the time like OTP? Otherwise I’d think it could be intercepted and forged, right?
And how would the reader work? Everyone needs to buy a reader to beep their ID to when they want to watch porn?
And how do you verify the source of the “yes/no” signal is a valid ID card? How do you know it’s used by the person linked to it?
Either the yes/no is trivially faked (so you might as well skip the formality), or the user secretly does get ID’d.
The data live on your eID, which is basically a Yubikey except you can’t save whatever you want on it.
Original page, since I don’t want to paste the full translation: https://meid.minv.sk/?page=frequent-questions%2F#howItWorks
Some countries in the EU like Slovakia also allow you to use passkeys that basically act as supplement to using physical ID card, so that you can use something better like Yubikeys or save it to your password manager.
It’s a smard card, there’s no reason why the “yes” can’t be cryptographically signed with a government-approved certificate.
That being said, fuck age verification online.
While good intended these actions just further validate their ideas, by showing anything other than an uncompromising “No”.
Lol, legit counter-privacy campaign.
If you’re not arming yourselves and physically demanding pro-privacy internet, you’re performing counter-privacy.At this point, we need to stop asking and start taking. Fuck all of this “by the books” stuff.
Cloudflare says recent statistics indicate about 57% of internet traffic is already non human. The thing is, the internet was sold and operates on the ecomonic model of advertising to humans. If humans become a declining portion of the internet, who will pay for advertising? Something else will emerge. Who knows what that will be. But lobbying to eliminate digital IDs so a diminishing number if humans stay anonymous seems like a waste of time.
Cloudflare is wrong.
It thinks I’m a bot all the time. It thinks anyone they can’t fingerprint uniquely is a bot. Those stats are wayy off
Yup I can’t verify at all sometimes now.
