• PugJesus@piefed.social
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    4 days ago

    No, that’s modern social democracy, which is generally considered fairly centrist. The issue with that is that capitalism still allows massive accumulation of power into the hands of individuals who can they leverage that power in an oppressive manner which is difficult to combat by ordinary folk.

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      3 days ago

      They will just roll it back eventually.

      I would honestly just start making so much of my own stuff for just myself, do only gig work for the occasional extra, produce and sell food. If everyone did as I did, we would only have the bare minimum alright…

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        3 days ago

        They will just roll it back eventually.

        Capitalists will always try, which means that leftists will be forced into the position of either wasting effort defending those hard-fought-for rights, or be discredited by their failure to do so (see: literally every leftist critique and analysis of popularity of mainstream parties in Western democracies for the past 40 years).

        It doesn’t mean that what has been gained is doomed, and certainly not that it’s worthless. But it does mean that as long as capitalism lives, it will always fight against everything that’s been torn from it.

        Tear if there’s nothing more to be done at a given moment. But kill it if you can.

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          3 days ago

          We have to how do I put this…rig things, so that there can be no rollback.

          Specifically, empower the individual enough, that it will be really hard to convince them that they need a government at all.