Can I get a smug lecture on how you’re choosing the third, disconnected track?
You are in the trolley supporting genocide the mother of all crimes
Yeah you can very easily add a few more of them bottom row victim to that top row too. Don’t be lying now.
If people don’t choose the third track, it will never be finished getting built. And clearly having only 2 tracks isn’t working.
Why did the democratic party leadership tie the palestinians to the upper set of tracks? Sure seems like they have chosen not to do that? But since they knew they’d get a pass from voters like OP, and thought they could still win while taking those aipac bribes, they decided to cash those aipac checks, right? And they are STILL doing it, isnt that right?
People like u/godric (OP) like to pretend this trolley problem just arose out of nowhere, but it didnt did it. It was contrived to be this choice. Kind of like a hostage situation with the party’s own voters-- voters who overwhelmingly do not support war crimes.
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We can stop trying to convince vocal non-voters. They are 100% either trolls trying to eat productive time or completely irrational, pig headed imbeciles and attention whores, and lecturing at them - or otherwise engaging with them in any way - is a complete waste of time. Let them smug themselves in isolation.
We either save civilization going AROUND their obstructions, or it’s not savable.
We can stop trying to convince vocal non-voters
Its not about them. Its about lurkers who are reading and might accept their faulty logic.
The ones wanting a different track better vote in the primaries, then, instead of just complaining about the party as a whole after the ticket is settled.
I would try, but it wouldn’t be as smug as this meme.
I did my duty, i held my nose and voted for the lesser of two evils.
But there’s no sensible reason to blame genocide opposing progressives instead of the genocide supporting DNC who stubbornly refused to advance policies their own base wanted.
The DNC decided to risk democracy in order to save a genocide - possibly the single most irresponsible decision in the 21st century. Blame them, they deserve it.
Add some realpolitik:
The GOP largely controls the messaging, due to owning the majority of media, as well as being more likely to have degrees in communications and sales, while Democratic candidates tend to have degrees in hard sciences.
The very moment the DNC did anything to hinder the genocide, every news stations would have a picture of local and national Democratic candidates with photoshopped Hitler mustaches.
Their job was to defend the white empire’s intrests. Democracy was never a value of theirs
Multiple groups can be blamed. The DNC deserves more blame than anyone who refused to vote, but all the people saying “if you vote for Kamala, you love genocide” deserve some blame too, because anyone with a brain knew that a lot more people were going to get hurt under Trump.
Wonder who they’ll run in 2028. If there’s an election in 2028.
I wake up every day not supporting a genocide. I wonder what’s so hard about it for the DNC. Boy do they love killing.
It’s the Zionists and their money. Conspiracy theorists were right all along unfortunately, with Israel doing everything possible to validate them.
But in an election once the candidates are locked between
“We’ll give money to the Israelis and they’ll kill Palestinians”
and
“We’ll give money to the Israelis and they’ll kill Palestinians, but also we want to get rid of Latinos and LGBTQ people, also poor people should lose the little healthcare they do have and hey there’s probably more bullshit we’re gonna pull, but some of it’s so stupid we haven’t even thought of it yet”
I can’t see how anyone with a brain would not vote against #2.
Donald Trump won completely legitimately and in addition to the 77.3 million Trump voters, there are about 90 million other eligible voters to blame for the kidnapping of Maduro, the war in Iran, the stupid ass tariffs, and so many other things. That’s what they all were willing to accept.
I can’t see how anyone with a brain would not vote against #2.
I love reading all of the replies to your comment that illustrate this sentence so clearly.
I can’t see how anyone with a brain would not vote against #2.
Because you’ve been around long enough to have been in this situation before. Voting #1 is at best a stop-gap measure. Option #1 doesn’t do anything to fix the underlying problem, and in fact, the next time around, #2 is way worse. (As is #1.) And this pattern keeps repeating. It doesn’t matter which you choose, you’ll end up with #2, just a bit later. (We’ve reached the stage at which genocide support is the lesser evil, fer chrissakes.)
As an analogy, the situation we have with the two parties is like a choice faced by person with Type 2 diabetes: Fall into a hypoglycemic coma right now and maybe die, or consume sugar by the spoonful. The second option is the correct choice, obviously. But next time around, it’s the same choice, and again after that. This person can choose the lesser evil every time, but it still leads to death.
So, painful and unlikely at it may be, some voters are thinking beyond the immediate moment and want to at least try to avoid the death of democracy.
at this point i’d take stop-gap
this all gas no brakes into collapse is so much worse than milquetoast corpo democrat
Indeed, but there’s never a good time for collapse. It wouldn’t be any more enjoyable in 2030, if it were happening then instead.
You still supported the extermination of a whole population that are currently getting exterminated. Despite the oppression of the groups you are mentioning none are facing eminent extermination with mass murder and starvation and the destruction of the majority . No wonder the rest of the non western world hate you american scums
the war in Iran
Under the Biden/Harris leadership, Israel bombed every single school and hospital in Gaza and put in action the most brutal phase of the genocide, while whitewashing it all at the same time with their help. Tell us about it dipshit, how would less people get hurt under Harris? I would love to hear it.
how would less people get hurt under Harris?
A lot of people in Iran wouldn’t get hurt.
And fewer people would be brutalized by ICE
You’re actually wrong about that. Obama deported way more than trump. 3 million over 8 years, where trump deported 1.2 million over 4. Thomas Homan at ICE created the policy to separate children from their parents at the border. He was an Obama appointee and Obama gave him an award for distinguished service. He gave that award after Homan proposed family separations.
Biden deported 4.5 million. Trump has deported 675k in his first year. He’ll have a hard time catching up to Obama or Biden.
I’m not defending republicans here, they are awful. But pretending things would be better under this cabal of democratic party leadership is just complete BS that you like to pretend its true. Its not true. Thats part of why Dem voters are mad at the dem leaders.
While we’re on the subject, Dems killed more Palestinians than Republicans did.
This is cope. The current dem leadership is totally on board with the war in Iran, and if the current administration hadn’t started it, Israel would almost certainly have dragged a hypothetical Harris administration into one anyway.
The several decade of American sanctions are killing more then the bombs during this war. Iran is going to get stronger once the evil american empire surrender
I’d say it’s the party in power is actually doing it.
Oh look another one posted by none other than Godric…. What a sad excuse of a person. At least have some real stance other than “leftists bad and they are telling us not to vote!”
Which we aren’t saying btw.
Holy shit, the number of people ITT where the message went right over their fucking head. Yes, OP, you got your smug lecture, as you prophesied. It’s insane how it doesn’t fit into people’s heads that you can work on getting better candidates/better positions/more sense into the DNC without indirectly supporting a full on fascist in the meantime.
What? Are you telling me it’s not just us vs. them? There’s nuance? Maybe even spectrums instead of binary choices? Get out of here with that nonsense. /s
Yall know there are other means of political action that resigning yourself to picking which criminal the aristocracy lets you to vote for right?
Voting doesn’t impede your ability to do those other means of action.
Dems have supported ICE for decades and still do
A ton of Dems are actively throwing trans people under the bus, joining Republicans in voting for Apartheid toilet bills and shit
Dems have also wholeheartedly supported the War on Terror that killed and displaced millions of people and have barred muslims from conventions even last year simply for being muslims
Obama had more deportations than any other presidents and this was touted as a dunk on Trump. Obama also introduced the cages. For children.
Their ‘support’ for BLM was also completely performative. When it came to actual action, BLM protests were violently crushed, organizers criminalized or killed, police budgets skyrocketed and nothing fundamentally changed
Remember the ratchet system. Republicans make things worse. Dems make sure they never get better.
Y’all got an extremely shitty choice to make. Republicans need to be ousted. And expect better from these motherfuckers that call themselves Democrats too.
I prefer to call it the War of Terror, since it’s basically Americans enacting revenge for 9/11 on random Muslims
I love how Americans live in this world where not supporting the ongoing Israeli genocide against the Palestinian civilian population is somehow a radical fantasy.
Reminder, the D guy has that guy tied to the tracks because apparently that’s where he thinks he should be. There has been plenty of time to get him out of the way, but the party is like “nah, leave him there. It’s better that way”.
Hey Godric, how come you don’t try telling dems to actually be worth voting for instead of being an insufferable votescolding dickhead effectively telling strangers online that they should just put up with a marginally slower implementation of fascism? I mean, how did that work out for you last time?
votescolding dickhead
You wouldn’t have written this if you weren’t planning to vote against the far lesser evil. Good info to have.
No, actually, I’m not planning to vote for them, because I don’t live in the US. Fuck.
This clown is a serial poster of shitty memes like this calling out leftists. His only excuse is usually “Well, well, we’ll, tis the season for LeFtIsTs to tell people not to vote!!”
This guy has no real convictions other than leftists bad. He’s a liberal dickrider through and through.
“L-lesser evil 🥺”
