No, don’t be ridiculous. That’s not why I think that. Religion survives from brainwashing. Look, I get we’re not going to see eye to eye on this. Maybe you yourself are religious and don’t want to come to terms with this. That’s fine. Can we agree that if someone is brainwashed they don’t truly have free will, but that we disagree on where/when the brainwashing starts/ends? That seems to be thr fundamental disagreement and you’re trying to twist it into something it is not in order to win a debate we’re not having.
I’m not trying to twist anything, I’m going off what you said about religion and brainwashing. We do fundamentally disagree on whether a religious person is brainwashed or not.
I won’t agree to the caveat, but here’s why: Brainwashing isn’t a definitive term. People can be coerced, but even then the lines are fuzzy. You can be coerced to do one thing while having complete freedom in another choice.
I’m an athiest and I’m not spiritual. But if you don’t want to engage any further, we can stop.
You can’t even agree that a brainwashed person hasn’t made their own decision. What was even the point of engaging in conversation in that case? Honestly, I don’t even care what made up reason you’ll have.
No, don’t be ridiculous. That’s not why I think that. Religion survives from brainwashing. Look, I get we’re not going to see eye to eye on this. Maybe you yourself are religious and don’t want to come to terms with this. That’s fine. Can we agree that if someone is brainwashed they don’t truly have free will, but that we disagree on where/when the brainwashing starts/ends? That seems to be thr fundamental disagreement and you’re trying to twist it into something it is not in order to win a debate we’re not having.
I’m not trying to twist anything, I’m going off what you said about religion and brainwashing. We do fundamentally disagree on whether a religious person is brainwashed or not.
I won’t agree to the caveat, but here’s why: Brainwashing isn’t a definitive term. People can be coerced, but even then the lines are fuzzy. You can be coerced to do one thing while having complete freedom in another choice.
I’m an athiest and I’m not spiritual. But if you don’t want to engage any further, we can stop.
You can’t even agree that a brainwashed person hasn’t made their own decision. What was even the point of engaging in conversation in that case? Honestly, I don’t even care what made up reason you’ll have.
Okie dokie, you have a good day.