This argument is so stupid I don’t know why you got so many upvotes. It’s nothing like the same situation. Men in general are physically stronger than women, men ARE generally more dangerous to women than women. Racism is the baseless belief that race determines the danger someone poses, but men are actually more dangerous to women in a very real way.
Nobody is denying that some men are dangerous. Nobody is denying that you can’t tell if someone is dangerous or not.
Nobody is denying that men are physically more dangerous to women than other women.
What you, and everyone else, are saying is that “all men are potentially dangerous”.
What you, and everyone else, are saying is that “all men are potentially dangerous”.
“All men are dangerous” is the exact same sentence as “all men are potentially dangerous.” These are the exact same sentence.
Someone is not “dangerous” if they’re actively in the act of raping someone. They’re well past the point of being dangerous to being an active violent threat. “Dangerous” in this context simply means “risky.” And yes, all men are dangerous if you don’t know about them. They present a potential danger. Ie, they’re dangerous. A woman meeting stumbling across a random man on a street at night is in a dangerous situation. There’s real risk there. Even if the guy turns out to be a saint, that danger still exists until proven otherwise.
Ah, ok thanks. I’ve seen this crop up a few times and wondered how the arguments spin wildly out of control. I get it now.
You (and I assume the OP) are using the word “dangerous” differently than most people here.
When you say “dangerous”, you mean “might be a threat”, right? Most people here understand it as “is a threat”.
To use an abstract example, to me “this sandwich is dangerous” and “this sandwich is potentially dangerous” are wildly different. One says this sandwich is definitely poisoned or something, the other is simply telling me to keep my guard up.
No physical or moral judgement is required for the argument. Op not passing moral or physical judgement upon the sharks but simply making a statistical analysis of the outcomes of swimming with sharks. That very same statistical argument can equally be applied to racial groups.
Statistically a black man in the unites states is twice as dangerous as a white man in the unites states both of whome are statistically more dangerous than a woman. (According to FBI statistics)
Your cannot separate these arguments you may have ur cake or u my eat it but you cannot do both.
Yeah, like I’m sure they can pull up some data on a specific country such as the US, showing a disparity between the population which was enslaved and discriminated against for hundreds of years, and still is (both discrimination and slavery, as the injustice in the justice system puts more black people into prison for longer and the constitution literally allows slavery as a punishment for a crime) and the majority ethnicity, but even those disparities are honestly tiny, minuscule in comparison to the difference between violent crime rates between the sexes.
Like those are just bullshit you can’t apply universally to an ethnicity and definitely not just like a skin tone.
But men being more violent?
According to the 2015 International Encyclopedia of the Social & Behavioral Sciences, sex differences in aggression is one of the most robust and oldest findings in psychology
Racism is the baseless belief that race determines the danger someone poses, but men are actually more dangerous to women in a very real way.
Guess my whole comment is just to reiterate this point, which you already made. Anyway there’s some more and an updoot
Edit hey guys uhmm I still understand the validity of why the OP of this thread made his comment. I feel the same way. And it’s not fucking fun having someone being prejudiced against you. I’d often get the “not all men” reaction as well. But unfortunately it’s just a fucking fact we men are well more violent, and strong. We’re also more likely to get murdered though, and we’re still not prejudiced against other men. Or lots aren’t I guess. But we also have better defenses, being men and stronger. The situation is not fair but I’d rather take a little bit of discomfort myself to make women feel more comfortable in the current climate, because of rhe numbers. But exactly because of the numbers it’s also a bad argument to claim blacks steal more. Perhaps true in some cases, definitely bullshit in a lot. But definitely not as robust of an observation, not even on the same scale. And having your wallet nicked isn’t exactly the same as being graped but again, men do get hurt more by violence but eh. It’s a shitty disparity, what can you do.
This argument is so stupid I don’t know why you got so many upvotes. It’s nothing like the same situation. Men in general are physically stronger than women, men ARE generally more dangerous to women than women. Racism is the baseless belief that race determines the danger someone poses, but men are actually more dangerous to women in a very real way.
The post is titled “all men are dangerous”.
Nobody is denying that some men are dangerous. Nobody is denying that you can’t tell if someone is dangerous or not. Nobody is denying that men are physically more dangerous to women than other women.
What you, and everyone else, are saying is that “all men are potentially dangerous”.
“All men are dangerous” is the exact same sentence as “all men are potentially dangerous.” These are the exact same sentence.
Someone is not “dangerous” if they’re actively in the act of raping someone. They’re well past the point of being dangerous to being an active violent threat. “Dangerous” in this context simply means “risky.” And yes, all men are dangerous if you don’t know about them. They present a potential danger. Ie, they’re dangerous. A woman meeting stumbling across a random man on a street at night is in a dangerous situation. There’s real risk there. Even if the guy turns out to be a saint, that danger still exists until proven otherwise.
Dangerous and potentially dangerous are not the same sentence. Every person, male or female is potentially dangerous.
Ah, ok thanks. I’ve seen this crop up a few times and wondered how the arguments spin wildly out of control. I get it now.
You (and I assume the OP) are using the word “dangerous” differently than most people here.
When you say “dangerous”, you mean “might be a threat”, right? Most people here understand it as “is a threat”.
To use an abstract example, to me “this sandwich is dangerous” and “this sandwich is potentially dangerous” are wildly different. One says this sandwich is definitely poisoned or something, the other is simply telling me to keep my guard up.
By “most people” you mean “men.” You’re doing the male as default.
The way women, who are most people, use dangerous, is that the person might be a threat.
Women are half the population. Neither men as a group nor women as a group are ‘most people’
I’m literally going off the upvotes / downvotes, nothing more.
It can’t be proven otherwise, because mr.saint can just be acting to get you alone.
Always carry a pepper spray, ignore the offended incels.
And interestingly, lesbian relationships are theoat violent, while gay male relationships are the least.
Even assuming that by theoat you actually meant to write “the most,” the assertion seems unlikely at best. By what metric are you measuring violence?
EDITED to add I found this in Wikipedia, which I think accounts for the bizarre twist:
Misandry.
No physical or moral judgement is required for the argument. Op not passing moral or physical judgement upon the sharks but simply making a statistical analysis of the outcomes of swimming with sharks. That very same statistical argument can equally be applied to racial groups.
Statistically a black man in the unites states is twice as dangerous as a white man in the unites states both of whome are statistically more dangerous than a woman. (According to FBI statistics)
Your cannot separate these arguments you may have ur cake or u my eat it but you cannot do both.
Stop spreading the missinfo on sharks! Sharks are fairly unlikely to eat you.
On the other hand, to be fair, we would not have a society if every man committed rape, but they can hurt you in other ways too.
It’s important to be cautious and distrust everyone.
Yeah, like I’m sure they can pull up some data on a specific country such as the US, showing a disparity between the population which was enslaved and discriminated against for hundreds of years, and still is (both discrimination and slavery, as the injustice in the justice system puts more black people into prison for longer and the constitution literally allows slavery as a punishment for a crime) and the majority ethnicity, but even those disparities are honestly tiny, minuscule in comparison to the difference between violent crime rates between the sexes.
Like those are just bullshit you can’t apply universally to an ethnicity and definitely not just like a skin tone.
But men being more violent?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime#Aggression_and_violence_among_peers_and_in_relationships
Guess my whole comment is just to reiterate this point, which you already made. Anyway there’s some more and an updoot
Edit hey guys uhmm I still understand the validity of why the OP of this thread made his comment. I feel the same way. And it’s not fucking fun having someone being prejudiced against you. I’d often get the “not all men” reaction as well. But unfortunately it’s just a fucking fact we men are well more violent, and strong. We’re also more likely to get murdered though, and we’re still not prejudiced against other men. Or lots aren’t I guess. But we also have better defenses, being men and stronger. The situation is not fair but I’d rather take a little bit of discomfort myself to make women feel more comfortable in the current climate, because of rhe numbers. But exactly because of the numbers it’s also a bad argument to claim blacks steal more. Perhaps true in some cases, definitely bullshit in a lot. But definitely not as robust of an observation, not even on the same scale. And having your wallet nicked isn’t exactly the same as being graped but again, men do get hurt more by violence but eh. It’s a shitty disparity, what can you do.