i wonder what you guys think about the open weight chinese AIs that are directly competing with the big tech AIs, isnt it a good idea to support projects that have open source and open weight only to make them more advanced than the closed ones from greedy billionaires? i say that because the AI bubble is a huge threat for the elites currently, and if we support their competition it might finally pop.
and the outcome will be a decentralized thing rather than they succeeding on replacing jobs and ruining our lives more than they already do. what yall think about this idea? remember that this is an economic war in the end, and the only way to take down the ones we despise is by decentralizing everything they want to centralize.
im asking this because i noticed people here in lemmy.zip are (justifiably) anti-ai… but only begging the govs that are directly lobbied by the elites wont work. we cannot bet on the government to bite the hand that feeds them.


My opinion is the name of the comm: “Fuck AI.”
That said, I do recognise that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but that’s a flawed perspective. The enemy of your enemy might see why you are your enemy’s enemy, especially if they want the same things while being in opposition. Thusly, the opposition to AI could be an enemy to both western and eastern AIs, even if those AIs themselves are enemies to one another.
I think the prevailing logic with regards to supporting any Chinese tech is "I don’t care what Beijing knows about me because I’m less likely to go somewhere where they have jurisdiction than somewhere Washington has jurisdiction (which is basically anywhere). If you’re someone the Chinese would never care about (like my middle aged working class ass), there’s something to be said about that.
But I don’t hate AI because the Epstein class supports it, I hate it because I think of it like Skynet from the Terminator franchise, or the machines from the Matrix movies. The truth is, AI is older than those concepts and we probably all use some form of it. It’s just all the AI slop we see online that forces us to take a position on it one way or another. I don’t remember hating AI or other people really talking about hating AI until a couple years ago. Stealing art, deepfakes, and driving up the costs of computer hardware, largely. Before that, most of us didn’t care nearly as much. My wife’s an artist, and I used to build computers — component pricing is a big part of why I’m a Mac user now. I don’t regret my choice, but I probably had another build or two left in me. My Macs will last past my 50th birthday for sure, so safe to say I’m “out” of building. I did always want a Mac since I was a kid, but also, component pricing pushed me toward that, so it’s part of why I say “fuck AI”. It became personal to me.
my distaste for AI isnt due to “x group vs y group” but more cuz i am aware the goal is to centralize power through automation, but i talked specifically about chinese AI because they do have a push for decentralized ones (open weight)… if AI be decentralized they cant gather all the power for themselves (no matter the group) and the elites do a takeover cuz they dont need the population anymore.
if one day china stop supporting open weight, then we go support whoever else does, because open source and open weight and anything copyleft is what takes power away from whos on the top.