i wonder what you guys think about the open weight chinese AIs that are directly competing with the big tech AIs, isnt it a good idea to support projects that have open source and open weight only to make them more advanced than the closed ones from greedy billionaires? i say that because the AI bubble is a huge threat for the elites currently, and if we support their competition it might finally pop.

and the outcome will be a decentralized thing rather than they succeeding on replacing jobs and ruining our lives more than they already do. what yall think about this idea? remember that this is an economic war in the end, and the only way to take down the ones we despise is by decentralizing everything they want to centralize.

im asking this because i noticed people here in lemmy.zip are (justifiably) anti-ai… but only begging the govs that are directly lobbied by the elites wont work. we cannot bet on the government to bite the hand that feeds them.

  • kinfuyuki@lemmy.zipOP
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    22 hours ago

    how is deepseek and kimi not open? also lets not forget that the training costs are absurdly lower and requires less hardware power, this alone is much more environment-friendly than whatever openAI and google and others are doing.

    • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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      4 hours ago

      Im sorry but how is having less power costs related to open source? Also they arent more environmentally friendly because they were trained in china which means it was likely trained off a coal power plant.

      But actually to the point, its just open souce washing by releasing the model weights. Nothing about it is open source.

      It has restrictions on use. It isnt available to be studied or modified because they have not released the data or pipelines and any derivatives inhert the restriction on use.

      Its a proprietary model and its released because there is no point in not releasing it since it trails behind frontier US models. Meta released the blueprint on how to train new models off frontier models for a fraction of the cost years before the first chinese model. Dont get me wrong they’re interesting and China is a big player in the AI space but thats it.