It would be very odd if the US or Israel did it, because this started when Iran wanted to stop communications among citizens who were protesting the government.
TL;DR, yes. It was Iran. It began before the attacks on Iran (back when it was Iran attacking its own people)
Not true. Iranian people have been attacked by murderous US+EU sanctions killing tens of thousands of them every year for decades now. The protests were literally engineered by the US as a form of justification for the war, look at Iranian Rial exchange prices on the months before the protests. Hell, Trump literally admit a few days ago to sending weapons to the “protestors”.
I wish you and your family never have to go through the “deserved sanctions” of the USA and EU, which together murder half a million people yearly since 1975 per latest medical research. I’m sure you don’t believe US citizens should starve to death for the actions of their government.
saddly nobody has found a better option. Iran has had particularly evil leaders for decades. (Why is interesting history itself - but not relavant to today)
You didn’t respond: would you enact starvation on Yanks to push for regime change?
The people enacting these sanctions, i.e. US government, are as of today explicitly talking about eliminating a civilization, the literal definition of genocide.
Israel and the US attacked because they were basically handed a golden opportunity in a world where they search for opportunity. The top governmental officials were present within the same room, confirmed by their intelligence officials, and during a vote for the next supreme leader. By attacking then, both the current government would be inept for days to weeks, and a new government would have a shoddy transition of power.
Tl;Dr: the goal is a long, drawn-out war. I realized after writing this whole thing out, It’s totally a tangent you didn’t mention, but fugget I’m not gonna let it go to waste.
Now, here’s the opportunity in that opportunity:
A “short victory” is not the goal, this is a resource war. Venezuela was effectively captured by the US, Hegseth has stated intents to revitalize the Americas as the ‘American sphere of influence’ (paraphrased), Iran is unable to export significant oil, and with that goes most of the middle east’s production through the closed strait. This disproportionately favors the US, Russia, and Canada for oil production. Trump previously pushed his “51st state” agenda on Canada, and Russia is cutoff from trade with much of the world due to sanctions. This has the US in a position where it disproportionately benefits from having the Strait of Hormuz closed, and the longer it goes, the more reliant countries get on the US for energy.
As to why it happens now, Trump is in power, and the current admin understands the developed world is slowly becoming more energy independent without the need for oil (alternative energy). This explains why the narrative is maintained that “green energy doesnt work,” while Europe actively sees progress and positive outcome with it. It’s not about what’s best for the American people he speaks to, it’s more oriented around what he wants to leverage in the current state of global affairs.
Israel and the US aren’t attacking due to the protests. They’re attacking because Israel wants to be like Nazi Germany leading up to the world wars and the US wants to help them.
I question whether Iran actually did this because it seems like an extremely convenient timing of events that almost perfectly mimics the “WMDs” the media harped on about for weeks before we invaded Iraq almost like they’re following the exact same playbook used in that illegal invasion.
Do we know it was actually Iran who shut it down or whether it was the US or Israel who did it instead?
It would be very odd if the US or Israel did it, because this started when Iran wanted to stop communications among citizens who were protesting the government.
TL;DR, yes. It was Iran. It began before the attacks on Iran (back when it was Iran attacking its own people)
Not true. Iranian people have been attacked by murderous US+EU sanctions killing tens of thousands of them every year for decades now. The protests were literally engineered by the US as a form of justification for the war, look at Iranian Rial exchange prices on the months before the protests. Hell, Trump literally admit a few days ago to sending weapons to the “protestors”.
Iran’s government has done plenty to deserve those sanctions. War is wrong no matter which side does it, and Iran is very guilty.
I wish you and your family never have to go through the “deserved sanctions” of the USA and EU, which together murder half a million people yearly since 1975 per latest medical research. I’m sure you don’t believe US citizens should starve to death for the actions of their government.
saddly nobody has found a better option. Iran has had particularly evil leaders for decades. (Why is interesting history itself - but not relavant to today)
I guess all Yanks should be starved for choosing the wrong president? Or is that something you reserve to nonwhites?
Or you can make war and kill innocents. Or you can turn your back and watch them kill innocents.
there are other variations, but I have yet to see an option that isn’t awful.
Respond! Why are you defending genocidal maniacs and their genocidal methods?
You didn’t respond: would you enact starvation on Yanks to push for regime change?
The people enacting these sanctions, i.e. US government, are as of today explicitly talking about eliminating a civilization, the literal definition of genocide.
Why are you defending genocide?
Considering Iran shut the Internet off before the us/Israel attacked due to protests, I’m not sure we’ll ever know…
I’ll translate the other guy’s comment;
Israel and the US attacked because they were basically handed a golden opportunity in a world where they search for opportunity. The top governmental officials were present within the same room, confirmed by their intelligence officials, and during a vote for the next supreme leader. By attacking then, both the current government would be inept for days to weeks, and a new government would have a shoddy transition of power.
Tl;Dr: the goal is a long, drawn-out war. I realized after writing this whole thing out, It’s totally a tangent you didn’t mention, but fugget I’m not gonna let it go to waste.
Now, here’s the opportunity in that opportunity: A “short victory” is not the goal, this is a resource war. Venezuela was effectively captured by the US, Hegseth has stated intents to revitalize the Americas as the ‘American sphere of influence’ (paraphrased), Iran is unable to export significant oil, and with that goes most of the middle east’s production through the closed strait. This disproportionately favors the US, Russia, and Canada for oil production. Trump previously pushed his “51st state” agenda on Canada, and Russia is cutoff from trade with much of the world due to sanctions. This has the US in a position where it disproportionately benefits from having the Strait of Hormuz closed, and the longer it goes, the more reliant countries get on the US for energy.
As to why it happens now, Trump is in power, and the current admin understands the developed world is slowly becoming more energy independent without the need for oil (alternative energy). This explains why the narrative is maintained that “green energy doesnt work,” while Europe actively sees progress and positive outcome with it. It’s not about what’s best for the American people he speaks to, it’s more oriented around what he wants to leverage in the current state of global affairs.
Israel and the US aren’t attacking due to the protests. They’re attacking because Israel wants to be like Nazi Germany leading up to the world wars and the US wants to help them.
I question whether Iran actually did this because it seems like an extremely convenient timing of events that almost perfectly mimics the “WMDs” the media harped on about for weeks before we invaded Iraq almost like they’re following the exact same playbook used in that illegal invasion.
If you read the article you’d know it was the Megatron-led Decepticons.
Iran shut it down. They were cear about that-