While having studies is important, this is completely obvious if you think about it for more than a few minutes. AI replaces workers, workers lose jobs and can’t buy food, therefore products that ai is creating can’t be bought, therefore those companies collapse, et al.
AI replaces entry level workers, but AI is less productive than even moderately experienced workers, so it actively harms whatever firms utilize it because they don’t have entry level workers to become experienced. It’s entirely parasitic. AI isn’t good at its job, it’s merely good enough. Replace enough of the economy with “good enough” and suddenly it isn’t good enough anymore.
This has been baffling me since the whole layoffs craze started in the '80s. It’s incredibly obvious that high unemployment is bad at every level for everybody including the companies “saving” money by laying everybody off.
I don’t understand how this needs a Ph.D. to figure out.
Henry Ford figured that out in the 1920s. At a time when it was normal to work 10 hours a day 6 days a week, Ford reduced his workers’ hours to 8 hours a day 5 days a week while paying them more per week worked, because he recognised that well-paid workers with free time buy more stuff, thus making him even richer. That’s especially impressive considering the union were pushing for the 8-hour day and the Jews were the ones seeking Saturday off; higher psy and shorter hours were so compelling they overcame Ford’s notorious raging hatred of unions and of Jews.
There’s probably also a tragedy of the commons kind of situation. Yes, it’s bad, but everyone else is doing it so you have to as well. If 99% of people do it and you don’t, you’re even worse off than everyone else.
Economics often turns into a terrible social policy.
What is the best piece of evidence (or cory doctorow article) you know that supports that AI Investment is driven by people who want to use it to supersede capitalism specifically by collapsing the economy, and not just by exactly what the paper says, which is that (because I believe that Investors are capable of creating greed at large scale because each holds only pieces of the pie) they want to use it for the canonical Stonks™ reason (and capitalism is horrible at coordination problems)? Googling Technofeudalism doesn’t immediately help,but I’ve read that the elements of 21st C capitalism are rent-seeking, the intersection between surveillance and market research, and big tech platforms.
I don’t have good articles to share on this. I feel like a lot of what I’ve read is scattered data largely. But this is the single best source I’ve seen as she brings the receipts with the actual tech bros literally talking about their plans for years.
At some point those businesses need workers. It doesn’t matter if you’re selling b2b 500 companies deep, at the end there’s a human buying a product and there’s humans building that product.
While having studies is important, this is completely obvious if you think about it for more than a few minutes. AI replaces workers, workers lose jobs and can’t buy food, therefore products that ai is creating can’t be bought, therefore those companies collapse, et al.
It goes deeper than that.
AI replaces entry level workers, but AI is less productive than even moderately experienced workers, so it actively harms whatever firms utilize it because they don’t have entry level workers to become experienced. It’s entirely parasitic. AI isn’t good at its job, it’s merely good enough. Replace enough of the economy with “good enough” and suddenly it isn’t good enough anymore.
I mean, the paper doesn’t just state the obvious, it also evaluated which policies can and can’t be used to avoid this scenario.
This has been baffling me since the whole layoffs craze started in the '80s. It’s incredibly obvious that high unemployment is bad at every level for everybody including the companies “saving” money by laying everybody off.
I don’t understand how this needs a Ph.D. to figure out.
Henry Ford figured that out in the 1920s. At a time when it was normal to work 10 hours a day 6 days a week, Ford reduced his workers’ hours to 8 hours a day 5 days a week while paying them more per week worked, because he recognised that well-paid workers with free time buy more stuff, thus making him even richer. That’s especially impressive considering the union were pushing for the 8-hour day and the Jews were the ones seeking Saturday off; higher psy and shorter hours were so compelling they overcame Ford’s notorious raging hatred of unions and of Jews.
There’s probably also a tragedy of the commons kind of situation. Yes, it’s bad, but everyone else is doing it so you have to as well. If 99% of people do it and you don’t, you’re even worse off than everyone else.
Economics often turns into a terrible social policy.
The problem is that every company treats this as an externality
Indeed. It’s almost as if greed and shortsightedness were a bad foundation for a society.
In this specific current case, imagine collapsing the economy is the point and purpose.
In previous decades, instability always benefits businesses. Laid off people are hungry and will take the same jobs for less pay.
This is the techno feudalism version of that.
What is the best piece of evidence (or cory doctorow article) you know that supports that AI Investment is driven by people who want to use it to supersede capitalism specifically by collapsing the economy, and not just by exactly what the paper says, which is that (because I believe that Investors are capable of creating greed at large scale because each holds only pieces of the pie) they want to use it for the canonical Stonks™ reason (and capitalism is horrible at coordination problems)? Googling Technofeudalism doesn’t immediately help,but I’ve read that the elements of 21st C capitalism are rent-seeking, the intersection between surveillance and market research, and big tech platforms.
The magic word that will tie it all together for you is TESCREAL.
I don’t have good articles to share on this. I feel like a lot of what I’ve read is scattered data largely. But this is the single best source I’ve seen as she brings the receipts with the actual tech bros literally talking about their plans for years.
The Nerd Reich
I think the promise is you can increasingly sell b2b instead of to lowly hunger serfs.
And with our insane wealth concentration that’s the next step.
At some point those businesses need workers. It doesn’t matter if you’re selling b2b 500 companies deep, at the end there’s a human buying a product and there’s humans building that product.